Members DruRocks Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 IA with Danni, why would you want to use the word? Doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drew Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 To me, saying "you can't say that because you're white" is the same as saying "You have to give up your seat on the bus because you're black" it's all racism, no matter what colour you are and what colour the person is you're meaning it towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 That's silly. Especially giving the context of the word and the demeaning history behind it from "white people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I can see what you mean, saying the black community has taken back the word to diminish its power -- I understand the concept. But isn't it counterproductive, just keeping the word around? If blacks banished the word from their lips and thoughts, THAT would diminish its power, because then whites wouldn't hear them saying it to each other and then cast judgments based on perceived hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danni Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 However, the two are very different. The reality is that there are certain things that different minorities choose to not share with the majority. Minority groups (I'm talking about ALL minorities, not just racial) have to interact with the majority, so there are certain instances where they'd want to have their safe haven; something that's theirs that the majority can't intrude. Which brings me back to the main question: Why would you (not talking you personally) even want to say it in the first place? Why do you feel that you have the right to say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 It also doesn't make sense to say blacks can use the word but whites can't. Discrimination is everywhere. What if someone not from America hung out with blacks (for whatever reason) who didn't mind him saying the word, but then he said it to the wrong person, away from that familiar setting? No one would care that he wasn't from the country; he'd get beaten up, if not killed. It's hypocrisy and it's dangerous to keep this word around, in any form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danni Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 The issue is that it really wouldn't stop white people from saying it if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 But who said black people should use that word. It's stupid for black people to even utter a word with such disgust behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drew Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 You can't take power from a word unless you are willing to stop being afraid of it when its said by certain people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danni Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Well, the history of racism in the U.S. isn't exactly some big secret, so I can say that I doubt someone can claim ignorance. That being said, it'd be totally stupid to regard a friend the same way you'd regard a stranger. But then that brings me back to the million dollar question that no one seems to want to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danni Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 But why would said certain people even want to say it? Is it so hard to just accept the fact that you CANNOT say it unless you want to get your ass kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drew Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 when others can say it? Absolutely. It's a double standard. I personally have no desire to say the word, but you can't pick and choose who gets to say things, and who doesn't. It's racism just in another form. That's why I feel it should just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DruRocks Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I don't think anybody disagrees that the word should go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drew Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 tell that to the rap artists that use the word in their lyrics as much as they use the word "The". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danni Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Even if the black community didn't say it, it's really not going to stop white people from saying if they wanted to do so. The reality is that the connotation of it from a black person is going to be different than that from a white person, and that's not going to change. Just accept the fact that you cannot and should not use it ever, regardless of the intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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