From Ausiello Files:

* No decision has been made on a Heroes renewal, but NBC prez Angela Bromstad says she’s pleased with the show’s ratings performance at 8 and series creator Tim Kring is “pitching out his view of the next season.”

I would be excited for another season if Tim Kring was fired. I can't believe he'll still be there if there's another season.

I would be excited for another season if Tim Kring was fired. I can't believe he'll still be there if there's another season.

Sadly, more of the same bull is coming... NBC is just one big, gigantic car crash right now.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/01/11/heroes-season-5-spoilers/

( I do remember gloating a bit when on one forum a bunch of Heroes fans praised season 1 of Heroes like this--"Unlike Lost, this is a show that gives us ANSWERS to all its questions, bla bla" Of course pretty much by season 2 they were regretting their words)

The first season was very good — although even then I was disappointed that Kring couldn't figure it out himself, but that Lindelof had to tell him that the guy can actually fly — but then the second season lost it. Completely. Since the first episode.

It all became cheap, lazy storytelling... Everyone having abilities, what happened actually didn't happen and so on.

However, whereas many were disappointed in blowing up in mid air, I wasn't. I really don't know what people expected. I haven't heard a single person trying to describe a possible, alternative superb ending. All b!tch, but no one offers anything else.

So of course the season finale was good because, once again as I've said before, the best episodes are when everyone gets together to work as a team. Now that Claire has exposed herself, I think next season (if there is one) will be about co-existing with humans. I want to see the 'Heroes' go up against villains in 1-2 episode arcs. Will Tim Kring finally get that he needs to put allthe characters together? I doubt that. *sigh* If there's a next season, it's going to be like this season - the first and last episodes will be the only interesting/good ones. The show needs to be X-Men-fied.

Aside from Claire and Sylar, and perhaps the cop, i just dont care about anyone on this show.

It really is sad what this show became after how great season 1 was.

Aside from Claire and Sylar, and perhaps the cop, i just dont care about anyone on this show.

It really is sad what this show became after how great season 1 was.

Yeah. Me neither. Completely indifferent.

Someone needs to put it out of its misery. Fixing the damage would take a while.

Sylar and Claire are 2 of the worst things about the show. The show needs to get rid of them already

Can Heroes Be Saved?

Even with a devastating plummet in ratings, Greg Grunberg says that even Heroes can be saved.

“I'm hearing rumors, I'm hearing good rumors,” said Grunberg at the MILK + BOOKIES First Annual Story Time Celebration at the Skirball Center in Los Angeles. “We clearly did not wrap up the overall lure and story of Heroes [in the season finale]. I love the last episode. I thought it was awesome. First of all, I was very powerful in it. But I also love the fact that it came to a point where now everyone is going to know about us and how do you deal with that now that it's all exposed. It was really exciting that [Claire] jumps in front of all the press. We'll see, I just felt like we do need to wrap this up. I think it would be great if they announced two more seasons or something like that. That would be so great for us because then like Lost there’d be an endgame and exciting, almost like waiting till the end of the movie.”

Once a thriving cult series for NBC (originally pulling in over 16 million viewers), Heroes has endured a sharp decline in audience popularity over the last couple years, sparking rumblings that the season 4 finale (which aired Feb. 8 to a dismal 4.4 million viewers) was in fact its series last.

But Grunberg doesn’t seem to think so, based on its famed international reputation and NBC tenure.

“NBC has so many pilots as you know and some of them are really great, so they're going to take a look at all that and then weigh it and then say, ‘Okay, can we use Heroes to launch some of these new shows?’" said Grunberg. “That's the good thing is that at least it's a show that's well received all over the world—DVD [has] huge sales, all that stuff is good for us. And also they can use it as a platform to launch other shows. NBC right now they need product.”

Grunberg says bringing it back would mean bringing it a full 360 degrees.

“I think we've tried some different things and I think it's just getting back to the roots of the show, which is, it’s a character show, a family show [with] the family relationships within the show. Think that's what we need to do,” he said. “So far we killed Adrian. How many times can you kill one of these characters!? So I just wish that and I know that we're going to go back to basically season one of what happened. I mean, I hope. I don't know what's going on. But I talked to [creator] Tim [Kring], he's excited about the possibility should they pull the trigger and say, ‘okay, yeah.’”

Even his character has come full circle.

“I've been so happy with my character, really. Season one, it was, ‘Wow, we want to see more, we want my character to be more important to the story,’ then somebody introduced my father, more part of the history these characters, and now they turn to mean to take down Syler! I mean, I can't complain! I'm very happy with where they've taken him and hopefully they'll lean on my character a lot more in future episodes.”

In a twist, now the fans even want to become heroes to rescue their favorite show—but Grunberg thinks it’s unnecessary at this point.

“I'm hearing from fans, like they put something out on my Twitter stream that says, ‘Sign this petition!’ I’m like, ‘We’re not at that place!’ We don't need a petition. We really don't. I so appreciate it though and I love the fact people are passionate about it. I think we’re fine, I really do. I'm the one who's at speaking the loudest.”

http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/can-heroes-be-saved-4208.html

http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/nbc-cancels-heroes/

I toldja there were 3 ways NBC was going to go, and we'd know as soon as today if cancellation was the option chosen, and it's now official.

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Well, at least we had 1 really good season (the first). Damn you Tim Kring for sucking and not understanding the "superhero world". At least it's finally over.

Oh well its no big loss. The show sucks with each season getting progressively worse than the previous one. I can imagine it was really expensive to produce and the numbers were dropping to the point where it wasnt feasible to keep it

It couldn't happen to a more deserving piece of [!@#$%^&*].

Heroes was never any good. It subsisted on geek goodwill, from genre fans desperate for weekly superhero-themed content. Its plot and characters were always skeletal, cardboard, totally driven by the whim of the moment.

Shows like this and other failures such as Flash Forward are the ultimate end result of the over-decompressed, "viral-marketing-first, characters-and-well-thought-out-story-last" hype machine programming JJ Abrams began wreaking across American television with Alias. Just like Alias, all of these shows talk a great game to hook viewers, but in the end they can't come together as the sum of their disparate, random, cryptic parts. They all end in cheap, bottom-barrel budget affairs that collapse into run-of-the-mill, third-string stories that do not honor the immense hype and bizarre series of red herrings that were used to string the audience along for years. Lost is no different. It is not a smart show. It is made for lazy people who want to feel smart by going on Wikipedia and reading about Philosophy 101 topics whose names got dropped into the show willy-nilly. That's not being smart. That's cribbing.

We've gone from quality TV to imitation quality - shows so byzantine and up their own ass with their own lingo, viral tie-ins, spin-offs, networks of "clues" and hollow allusions to other, better stories that they can't form a single original idea of their own. Here's hoping that with the death of all the above-mentioned programs, the new decade will lead to something more honest and less poseur for our primetime genre entertainment. These shows were perfect for the George W. Bush era - a bunch of incompetent boobs getting high off their own farts and imperiously assuring us that everything is fine and they have it all under control.

/soapbox

I think it also depends on how good the creator is at making fans believe the show knows what it's doing. Even if hte show doesn't, someone who is good at conning can make viewers go along. Tim Kring didn't seem very good at conning viewers or at producing good television.

Very rarely has any show started off as big as this one and then piss it all away. This show was supposed to be a franchise for NBC. They were doing a spinoff, and everything. Now it's likely to be forgotten within a few years. In the end it was about as relevant as Powers of Matthew Starr.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/08/19/getting-lost-with-damon-lindelof-and-heroes-creator-tim-kring/

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s1/heroes/tubetalk/a266840/qa-tim-kring-talks-heroes-axe.html