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Heroes / Heroes Reborn: Discussion Thread

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I don't know what side Noah is working for, and I have my idea's on who Rebel can be.

I have a feeling that Claire already knows who this person is.

At first I thought that it may have been Noah, but then he was there when she got a message, unless he was able to have the message sent to her at a certain time.

As for Sylar, they know how to kill him, but has anyone actually tried shooting him in te back of the head yet and then cutting of his head.

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Robert Knepper continues his villainous streak.

Coming off a role as bad guy Theodore "T-Bag" Bagwell on Fox's "Prison Break," Knepper has been tapped as the new lead villain on NBC's "Heroes" next season.

In at least six episodes of the series' fourth season, Knepper will play Samuel, a Jim Jones type -- charismatic but evil, with a twisted sense of humor -- who will veer into the lives of all heroes. The character had been referred to as "Carnival Barker" in the series breakdown released last month.

"Heroes" is slated to return in the fall for a "Lost"-style all-original run in a new time slot at 8 p.m. on Mondays. The sci-fi drama -- which enjoys a strong online following -- will share its time period with another fan favorite, "Chuck," which will take over in midseason.

Production on the UMS-produced "Heroes" is scheduled to begin later this week.

Knepper is perhaps best known for playing a character on "Prison Break" that viewers loved to hate -- T-Bag, a murderer, rapist and supremacist. On the bigscreen, he was most recently seen in "Transporter 3" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

Knepper is repped by Fortitude, D/F Management and attorney Todd Rubenstein.

"Heroes' " Claire Bennet is off to college.

The undestructable high school cheerleader will soon be hitting the books on a college campus where she will cross paths with a quirky student played by Madeline Zima.

"Californication" co-star Zima has been tapped to recur on the NBC drama's upcoming fourth season.

In a multi-episode arc she will play Gretchen, an edgy outsider and college roommate to Claire (Hayden Panettiere).

Zima, who next appears in the feature "My Own Love Song" opposite Renee Zellweger and Forest Whitaker, is repped by ICM and Framework.

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Robert Knepper rocks and he plays a villain so well.

Happy for Rachel! I hope this is the beginning of big things to come for her.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...d0a0eecf92afe55

Rachel Melvin moves to 'Heroes'

'Days of Our Lives' star up for Daytime Emmy

By Nellie Andreeva

June 5, 2009, 04:29 PM ET

The more the merrier.

Days after "Californication" co-star Madeline Zima was cast to play Claire Bennet's (Hayden Panettiere) college roommate Gretchen in a multiepisode arc, Claire got herself yet another roommate.

"Days of Our Lives" co-star Rachel Melvin has been tapped to guest star and potentially recur on "Heroes" next season, playing Annie, who also will share sleeping quarters (and maybe more) with Claire.

Melvin, who left "Days of Our Lives" in March after four years, recently earned her second Daytime Emmy nomination for her role as Chelsea Brady on the daytime drama.

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NBC is mining the staff of "Heroes" for writing talent, sealing overall deals with series scribes Aron Coleite and Joe Pokaski.

The Peacock's Universal Media Studios arm has signed separate two-year pacts with Coleite and Pokaski, who will continue to write for "Heroes" but also start developing projects as well.

Both writers are proteges of "Heroes" creator Tim Kring, having previously worked with Kring on "Crossing Jordan," also for NBC.

"They're great, imaginative guys who have impressed us over and over again," said NBC drama topper Laura Lancaster. Coleite, who continues on "Heroes" as a co-exec producer, said he's already kicking around a handful of ideas to develop.

"I've been waiting to develop since day one," Coleite said. "NBC Universal and Tim and Angela (Bromstad) gave me my shot when I was at 'Crossing Jordan,' and they were truly supportive."

Coleite has been with "Heroes" since that show's launch; ditto Pokaski, who will now serve as supervising producer on the series' fourth season.

Pokaski said he is also already coming up with potential series concepts for development.

Pokaski has also been helping "Heroes" scribe Jesse Alexander on his new show, "Day One."

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Heroes' Bryan Fuller Leaving for Second Time

Jun 22, 2009 06:28 PM ET by Tim Molloy 25 Comments

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Bryan Fuller has left Heroes... again.

Fuller says he's leaving this time to work on other projects because of time constraints — not due to any creative differences with Heroes creator Tim Kring. "Development was really starting to heat up, and it appears like I may be writing multiple pilots for NBC so that wasn't leaving a ton of room for Heroes, unfortunately," Fuller told Ain't It Cool News. "We crafted some really great arcs for the season that I'm excited to see come to fruition. I love that cast dearly and am sad to go, but the plate — she was over-flowing."

A source familiar with the situation said Fuller would work full-time on developing shows for Universal Media Studios, which also makes Heroes.

Fuller, originally a co-executive producer of the show, left after its first season to create Pushing Daisies. He returned as a consulting producer in 2008 after ABC canceled Daisies to oversee Heroes' spring episodes. Fans had hoped he would help return the show to the level of its first season, when he wrote several of the most-loved episodes.

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"Oz" alum Ernie Hudson has joined NBC's drama series "Heroes" as recurring.

He will play Captain Lubbock, a Baltimore detective.

As usual, the show's producers are keeping story line details under wraps, but it is understood that Lubbock is on the hunt for one of the other characters on the show.

"Heroes" marks a return to the police beat for Hudson, who also played a detective in a recurring role on ABC's "Desperate Housewives." He also played a senior deputy on ABC's dramedy "10-8: Officers on Duty."

The upcoming fourth season of "Heroes" introduces a major new mythology about a traveling carnival of people with special powers run by a charismatic but evil Earth-moving ringleader (Robert Knepper).

Hudson, who recently wrapped the "Smokin' Aces" prequel, is repped by Innovative and the Marshak/Zachary Co.

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We’re gonna do something a little different with this week’s Heroes recap. Sure, I could blow on for hundreds and hundreds of words about what worked in “Acceptance” and what didn’t. Instead, I’ll pick out a couple of noteworthy threads, and end with a “bold” prediction. WHAT WORKED

An overall sense of cohesiveness. “Acceptance” was about four characters who did just that — came to grips with who they are, and what they’re here to do: Noah, Hiro, Nathan, and Tracy. I particularly liked Noah’s aimlessness as he sat for a career-counseling session with Claire. Episode writer Bryan Fuller has always had some insight into this company man, and he brought out the futility of Noah Bennet — he devoted his life to his job, and without the job, there’s no life.

The Swoosie Kurtz gambit. Nathan visits Millie, the mother of the girl Nathan accidentally killed in a pool mishap (which was then covered up by Angela Petrelli), and confesses to the deed. While at a cordial dinner with Angela, Millie exacts her own revenge: She hired a thug to grab Nathan in a parking garage, drive him out to the boonies, and shoot him in a shallow grave. And all the while, Millie is as still and cool as a mountain lake. Nice to see another actress of a certain age who can bring the creepy.

WHAT DIDN’T

Hiro’s time loops. Isn’t this a guy who knows he’s going to die because of all the temporal jaunts he takes? So what does he do? Travel into the past dozens of times to save one suicidal wage slave who got fired for photocopying his butt. I get that it’s the sheer monotony/inevitability of it that teaches Hiro his lesson — but why didn’t Hiro just grab him from the ledge of the building he was gonna jump from? It got Hiro to an interesting place — willing to open up to his sister about his superpowers — but I wish it hadn’t been so rudimentarily frustrating. (Plus, shouldn’t his continued pollution of the timeline have some significant ramifications at some point? Heroes used to make a lot more of the butterfly effect…now it pretends as if it doesn’t exist.)

THE “BOLD” PREDICTION

Slowly but surely, the story will force all the characters into an inevitable confrontation with the Samuel the Earthmover-Inkbender and Sylar the Shapeshifter. Not that bold, actually: Does anyone really think that something different will happen? I wish I could see something else on the horizon, but that’s just the Heroes m.o., and I don’t think Tim Kring has another card in his deck. Every season has been about building the team to defeat the threat, and during every hiatus, that team is mysteriously dismantled. Doesn’t he realize that one of the great joys of group comic books like The X-Men, The Avengers, and Justice League of America comes with watching what that team does after they’re together?

There is no second act to this story — without one, Heroes will always feel like it’s spinning its wheels.

Still, this was an improvement over last week’s episode. Even though the reappearance of the Sylar body was the only real plot progression, the time spent with the characters was well handled. What’d you think? Are we on the right path, or still floundering? And I never thought in a million years I’d be asking this, but where’s Mohinder?

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I started this discussion in the status threads but it seems better to move it here. I'm trying to work out...

What Happened to Heroes?

First, I'm not trying to be negative but this show used to be a-ppoint-ment television for me. I am a fangirl always looking for a new fandom. I have a Nathan Petrelli for Congress sign in my office. But now when I get around to watching it, I usually find one "cool" and five "WTFs" in a sea of "meh."

I know the writers strike did a LOT of damage but the show has hosed itself all by itself. I know the show is different from Kring's original vision and maybe he's never been able to synergize to two visions. That's where Brian Fuller was very helpful. I felt like he did a really good job of realizing what Kring was trying to do but Fuller can't seem to bring himself to stay and over the last year the show has let go of a lot of the original behind the scenes talent.

When Tim Kring apologized to the fans of Heroes for the suckage of S2, I was blown away. He'd heard the complaints and respected the audience enough to respond. (Just try to picture a soap showrunner doing that!) But know I feel like if he gave an apology for everything that's gone wrong since he'd give a speech that would run longer than Khaddafi's at the UN.

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Doesn’t he realize that one of the great joys of group comic books like The X-Men, The Avengers, and Justice League of America comes with watching what that team does after they’re together?

Exactly! I don't get Tim Kring doesn't bring the "heroes" together. It totally sucks when they have seperate storylines and don't interact. The show would be so much better if they became a group.

I know the writers strike did a LOT of damage but the show has hosed itself all by itself. I know the show is different from Kring's original vision and maybe he's never been able to synergize to two visions. That's where Brian Fuller was very helpful. I felt like he did a really good job of realizing what Kring was trying to do but Fuller can't seem to bring himself to stay and over the last year the show has let go of a lot of the original behind the scenes talent.

Tim Kring doesn't "understand" the comic book/superhero universe - he's not a fanboy. You need a fanboy to write a serialized show about superheroes.

Whatever. This show is done. This will be the last season. NBC's already shorten the amount of episodes.

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I have emphasized many of the show's faults several pages back. Eric from Montreal partecipated too, I think, with several others. And the shows still suffers from the same kind of mistakes. I do not believe that Tim Kring ever went beyond season 1, if that. You all know he said in one interview he planned the shows 5 seasons in broad detail.

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