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August 28 - September 1, 2006

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If you're going to copy/paste, please credit. That's all I ask...it's not that hard. I take time to type up these numbers and it takes a while. :) Also curse to all you mean spirited thieves. I hope you get run over by a truck, but of course I don't wish death on you....a few broken bones will do justice. Curse you!! Thanks. ;):lol:

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

Ratings for the week August 28 - September 1, 2006

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 5,763,000 (+39,000/+588,000)

2. B&B 4,281,000 (+63,000/+205,000)

3. ATWT 3,440,000 (+88,000/+205,000)

4. DAYS 3,357,000 (-16,000/+362,000)

5. GH 3,076,000 (-185,000/-135,000)

6. OLTL 3,011,000 (-203,000/-69,000)

7. AMC 2,986,000 (-154,000/+68,000)

8. GL 2,943,000 (+15,000/+135,000)

9. PSNS 1,829,000 (+46,000/-268,000)

HH

1. Y&R 4.3/15 (-.1/+.3)

2. B&B 3.2/11 (same/same)

3. ATWT 2.6/9 (+.1/+.1)

3. DAYS 2.6/8 (-.1/+.2)

5. GH 2.4/8 (-.1/-.2) <---------- ties low rating

6. OLTL 2.3/8 (-.1/-.2) <-------- ties low rating

6. AMC 2.3/8 (-.1/-.1) <--------- new low rating

8. GL 2.2/7 (same/same)

9. PSNS 1.5/5 (same/-.2)

Women 18-49 Viewers

1. Y&R 1,550,000 (+83,000/+305,000)

2. DAYS 1,325,000 (+97,000/+230,000)

3. GH 1,177,000 (-51,000/+35,000)

4. B&B 1,124,000 (+133,000/+35,000)

5. OLTL 1,086,000 (-66,000/-34,000)

6. AMC 1,032,000 (+4,000/-14,000)

7. ATWT 964,000 (+108,000/+209,000)

8. PSNS 883,000 (+44,000/+59,000)

9. GL 852,000 (+110,000/+149,000)

Women 18-49 Rating

1. Y&R 2.3/16 (+.1/+.4)

2. DAYS 2.0/12 (+.1/+.3)

3. GH 1.8/11 (-.1/+.1)

4. B&B 1.7/11 (+.2/same)

5. AMC 1.6/10 (same/same)

5. OLTL 1.6/10 (-.2/-.1)

7. ATWT 1.4/9 (+.1/+.2)

8. PSNS 1.3/8 (same/same)

8. GL 1.3/8 (+.2/+.2)

Girls 12-17 Viewers

1. GH 66,0000 (-16,000/-21,000)

2. DAYS 65,000 (-27,000/+4,000)

3. AMC 64,000 (-7,000/+9,000)

4. OLTL 59,000 (-27,000/-15,000)

5. PSNS 48,000 (-32,000/-17,000)

6. ATWT 38,000 (-22,000/+11,000)

7. Y&R 30,000 (-5,000/-18,000)

8. B&B 20,000 (-9,000/-14,000)

9. GL 18,000 (-31,000/-32,000)

Women 18-34 Rating

1. DAYS 2.0/12 (same/+.3)

2. Y&R 1.6/10 (+.1/+.3)

3. GH 1.5/10 (-.1/+.3)

4. PSNS 1.4/9 (-.1/same)

5. AMC 1.3/8 (+.1/+.2)

5. OLTL 1.3/8 (-.1/+.1)

7. ATWT 1.0/7 (same/+.1)

7. B&B 1.0/6 (same/-.1)

7. GL 1.0/6 (+.1/+.1)

Men 18+ Viewers

1. Y&R 1,329,000 (+60,000/+175,000)

2. B&B 976,000 (-26,000/+127,000)

3. ATWT 745,000 (same/+121,000)

4. GL 621,000 (-35,000/+66,000)

5. DAYS 616,000 (-5,000/+124,000)

6. AMC 470,000 (-51,000/-45,000)

7. OLTL 412,000 (-31,000/-78,000)

8. GH 390,000 (-75,000/-142,000)

9. PSNS 335,000 (+65,000/-98,000)

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Day-To-Day HH Ratings - HH/Total Viewers

AMC

Monday: 2.3/2,961,000

Tuesday: 2.3/3,112,000

Wednesday: 2.3/3,261,000

Thursday: 2.2/2,742,000

Friday: 2.3/2,857,000

ATWT

Monday: 2.7/3,613,000

Tuesday: 2.6/3,469,000

Wednesday: 2.7/3,482,000

Thursday: 2.5/3,320,000

Friday: 2.6/3,315,000

B&B

Monday: 3.3/4,548,000

Tuesday: 3.3/4,419,000

Wednesday: 3.4/4,372,000

Thursday: 3.1/4,000,000

Friday: 3.1/4,063,000

DAYS

Monday: 2.7/3,520,000

Tuesday: 2.6/3,356,000

Wednesday: 2.7/3,490,000

Thursday: 2.4/3,180,000

Friday: 2.5/3,238,000

GH

Monday: 2.5/3,215,000

Tuesday: 2.4/3,033,000

Wednesday: 2.5/3,263,000

Thursday: 2.3/2,905,000

Friday: 2.4/2,966,000

GL

Monday: 2.2/3,014,000

Tuesday: 2.2/2,865,000

Wednesday: 2.4/3,142,000

Thursday: 2.1/2,832,000

Friday: 2.2/2,863,000

OLTL

Monday: 2.4/3,082,000

Tuesday: 2.4/2,998,000

Wednesday: 2.4/3,208,000

Thursday: 2.2/2,770,000

Friday: 2.4/2,995,000

PSNS

Monday: 1.5/1,979,000

Tuesday: 1.5/1,872,000

Wednesday: 1.4/1,730,000

Thursday: 1.4/1,706,000

Friday: 1.5/1,857,000

Y&R

Monday: 4.5/6,099,000

Tuesday: 4.4/5,937,000

Wednesday: 4.4/5,742,000

Thursday: 4.2/5,568,000

Friday: 4.1/5,470,000

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For the SEASON September 19, 2005 through September 3, 2006

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 5,548,000

2. B&B 4,291,000

3. GH 3,402,000

4. ATWT 3,340,000

5. DAYS 3,293,000

6. AMC 3,240,000

7. OLTL 3,171,000

8. GL 2,831,000

9. PSNS 2,081,000

HH

1. Y&R 4.2

2. B&B 3.2

3. GH 2.7

4. ATWT 2.6

4. OLTL 2.6

4. DAYS 2.6

4. AMC 2.6

8. GL 2.2

9. PSNS 1.6

Women 18-49 Viewers

1. Y&R 1,386,000

2. GH 1,247,000

3. DAYS 1,234,000

4. OLTL 1,158,000

5. AMC 1,153,000

6. B&B 1,038,000

7. PSNS 888,000

8. ATWT 864,000

9. GL 806,000

Women 18-49 Rating

1. Y&R 2.1

2. GH 2.0

3. DAYS 1.9

4. OLTL 1.8

4. AMC 1.8

6. B&B 1.6

7. PSNS 1.4

8. ATWT 1.3

9. GL 1.2

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Even the times when Y&R isn't as good as it was/should be, it's still far better than most of what's out there and that alone is frightening- also reflected in the fact that its stranglehold on #1 spot has remained strong even with falling numbers.

Well Y&R does deal with things far more realistically, and two of the more harrowing deaths I've seen on the show- that of Cassie last year and Keesha a decade ago- also enabled the show to touch on important social topics.

How many truly soap couples have been created in the new millennium? How many outstanding performers today are likely to follow in the footsteps of such guns as Anne Heche, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Cynthia Watros, Tammy Blanchard, Amber Tamblyn, Erin Torpey and Jennifer Finnigan? (those are 7 standouts amongst others). Not many I'm afraid :(

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Not many people in charges of soaps these days actually get it. ATWT just finished a slasher story that seemed to help ratings a tiny bit, but is there another story being paced to become the next big thing? No. The show will probably go into a lull until November sweeps. Why can't the writers tell a variety of stories in the beginning, middle and end phases. So many seem to go in circles and fans have little incentive to watch every single day.

With many more options of course the audience will erode a bit, but I also truly believe the decline in quality has made even the most loyal soap fans consider giving up their shows.

There are also more serialized dramas and comedies in prime time so people get their "soap" fix everywhere with much higher quality. A well-drawn, INTELLIGENT daytime soap would still draw ratings.

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I enjoy watching re-runs of Law & Order: SVU more than any daytime soap these days...

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I'm actually surprised, as a longtime B&B viewer, that B&B's ratings haven't taken a big dive yet considering the truly PITIFUL state Bell is running the show into. Character assassinations galore, boring and repetitive storylines, the list of complaints could go on and the only saving grace will be any stellar performances the likes of Susan Flannery can put on.

Even La Flannery can't save this mess right now. I've switched over to FASHION HOUSE. I'm hoping DAYS can continue their steady gain and steal some of B&B's viewers. That is the only thing that will wake up Bill Jr. and Lee.

Something has GOT to change over there.

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After having sampled a full week of MyNetworkTV, I believe AMC experimented with this to look as "cool" as those shows do, sort of as a pre-emptive strike.

Think about it: in addition to competing with daytime TV, AMC is also competing with primetime TV. SOAPnet and MyNetworkTV are in direct competition with each other for the 8 and 9PM hour.

I expect to see all the ABC shows go "film-look" crazy by 2007.

This is off-topic, but the United States could become the first nation were the telenovela formula has failed. MyNetworkTV debuted two 13-week (65 episodes) telenovelas this past week, "Desire" and "Fashion House", and audiences general ignored them.

According to Nielsen Media Research figures, both series averaged around a 1.3 for their first episodes on Tuesday (9.5) and had dropped to around a 1.1 by Thursday (9.7). Hardly numbers to brag about. Since both serials feature recurring storylines, the ratings should only drop as viewers feel no incentive to tune in since they won't be up-to-date on what's happening (even with weekend "recap" episodes).

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Hear, hear.

I think the least Brad Bell should do is to step aside from HW duties and bring on a decent writer who knows how to write real stories instead of the mess we have right now. Stop bringing people back from the dead, and stop bringing in characters who you can't/won't write stories for...

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I'm hoping DAYS can continue their steady gain and steal some of B&B's viewers. That is the only thing that will wake up Bill Jr. and Lee.

Something has GOT to change over there.

But the problem is that Bell's own the show, and they're not likely to fire Bradley. It won't happen soon, I suppose. But, I'm sooo hoping it will. So, I think CBS's involvmenet with this is minimal. And they're not likely to cancel GL and give Bradley a show on his own. But that just seem such a perfect thought. :D
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And the other problem: recycling the same old failed writers and producers among the soaps.

The question is: is Brad Bell really a capable writer who has become too lazy or lost the plot? Or is he just a hack despite his genes?

We might ask somewhat similar questions of James E. Reilly and Megan McTavish. Both enjoyed considerable success in their first stints at Days and AMC respectively, with high ratings and all. But Reilly's second stint in Days was clearly a failure, and McTavish's second and third stints for AMC have proven disastrous. Did those two just get lucky first time round? Or did McTavish simply have the fortune of having a stronger EP in FMB during her first stint (as well as inheriting a show already doing well)?

Similarly I can't understand how JFP ended up producing for OLTL and GH after the damage she did to AW and GL, or how Higley got the OLTL HW job after plunging Days to the depths (though Langan had done much of the damage anyway...)

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This is off-topic, but the United States could become the first nation were the telenovela formula has failed. MyNetworkTV debuted two 13-week (65 episodes) telenovelas this past week, "Desire" and "Fashion House", and audiences general ignored them.

According to Nielsen Media Research figures, both series averaged around a 1.3 for their first episodes on Tuesday (9.5) and had dropped to around a 1.1 by Thursday (9.7). Hardly numbers to brag about. Since both serials feature recurring storylines, the ratings should only drop as viewers feel no incentive to tune in since they won't be up-to-date on what's happening (even with weekend "recap" episodes).

I watched the debut episodes of both 'Desire' and 'Fashion House', and they were nothing to write home about. The writing and acting were amateurish - I know, both standard staples of a telenovela, but with all of the hype that these shows received, I expected more. Also, both of these shows are on what was the UPN network, which generated similar ratings for most of their shows. The telenovela formula doesn't have to fail in this country. What MyNetworkTV needs is a breakout show to put it on the map, and unfortunately, what they've given us so far isn't going to do it.

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I'll throw this out there as another contributing factor to declining ratings - we as the fans know too much. All the spoilers have cut down on the dramatic effect of stories. Many times the end of the story or the result of the story is known before it happens.

Also telling who is going to be featured and who is going to be on next week or whatever indicates to viewers whether their favorites will be featured or not. Esp. these coming up on the next show features that air after or during the show hurts way too much. I know several times lately ATWT has given away key points in their coming up segments. The dramatic effect was greatly hurt.

I know that the few times I try to go spoiler free the show is much more enjoyable. But even when I try to avoid spoilers on the Internet, the promos on SoapNet and the networks give much more away than they ever did before.

I think the fans have gone way overboard with how much we feel we need to know. And all these sites that have set themselves completely up to get the best spoilers and to send them out there have hurt the shows way too much.

It used to be that fans didn't know anything at all, and we tuned in everyday to see what was going to happen. Even at times when the writing wasn't as good as other times, we still wanted to see what was going to happen. We were drawn in by the mystery of it. We had the element of the unknown, and we didn't know who was going to be on that day, and if our favorite was on we were pleasantly surprised. And we sure didn't know that our favorite was being fired.

I can remember when Another World fired Michael M. Ryan as John Randolph - we had no idea at all. He had been on the show for so long. And when he went into that fire, you just knew he was going to come back out. But no he didn't. Boy you talking about shock. All that would have been ruined, and the build-up from one day to the next would have been destroyed if we had known that he was leaving the show.

I would love for those days back.

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I'll throw this out there as another contributing factor to declining ratings - we as the fans know too much. All the spoilers have cut down on the dramatic effect of stories. Many times the end of the story or the result of the story is known before it happens.

Also telling who is going to be featured and who is going to be on next week or whatever indicates to viewers whether their favorites will be featured or not. Esp. these coming up on the next show features that air after or during the show hurts way too much. I know several times lately ATWT has given away key points in their coming up segments. The dramatic effect was greatly hurt.

I know that the few times I try to go spoiler free the show is much more enjoyable. But even when I try to avoid spoilers on the Internet, the promos on SoapNet and the networks give much more away than they ever did before.

I think the fans have gone way overboard with how much we feel we need to know. And all these sites that have set themselves completely up to get the best spoilers and to send them out there have hurt the shows way too much.

It used to be that fans didn't know anything at all, and we tuned in everyday to see what was going to happen. Even at times when the writing wasn't as good as other times, we still wanted to see what was going to happen. We were drawn in by the mystery of it. We had the element of the unknown, and we didn't know who was going to be on that day, and if our favorite was on we were pleasantly surprised. And we sure didn't know that our favorite was being fired.

I can remember when Another World fired Michael M. Ryan as John Randolph - we had no idea at all. He had been on the show for so long. And when he went into that fire, you just knew he was going to come back out. But no he didn't. Boy you talking about shock. All that would have been ruined, and the build-up from one day to the next would have been destroyed if we had known that he was leaving the show.

I would love for those days back.

I 100% agree with this, and have thought this for a LONG time. We now as viewers get to choose whether to watch or not bc we already know what we'll see, and if we'll even care to see it.

I remember the days before the internet and before all the TV promos - and you were always on the edge of your seat, waiting in anticipation. You were always surprised to no longer see a character on your screen - weren't sure if they were really going to die or survive....

Maybe technology is killing soap operas?

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I too think that spoilers are the main problem. Of course there are other factors. I am spoiler free for right now and am enjoying both of the shows (Y&R and ATWT) that I watch.

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all ABC soaps suck GH pissed on and trash rexis jasam and l&l so they could do jiz it is sicking to me how they are trashing luke and laura son lucky to pimp and prop a [!@#$%^&*] hitman DIE GH DIE

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I disagree that it's the spoilers that are the problem. We've always had spoilers as far back as Malone I you could call ABC and pay for them. Maybe Frons is missing out on a revenue making ploy. The problem with the ABC stuff is that it is all stuff that confirms the worst rather than exciting you. Did any of us truly want to see Kelly screw Duke in the rectory? John dies? Unfortunately he lives. Then there is Todd dies along with the fake exit interview. Maybe if they took a risk and killed Todd or John so that they had some credibility then people might tune in?

The problem that you cannot get away from is the stories are bad and they continue to extinguish any degree of hope that they might otherwise offer.

Also with Hackley's blatent foreshadowing on OLTL the spoilers aren't even spoilers.

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I agree, spoilers aren't the problem, it's bad writing. Nothing on AMC makes any sense at all. Not one single storyline.

Anyways, does anyone know if AMC has ever hit this low in the ratings in the past?

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