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6 hours ago, Liberty City said:

 

I'm glad to spot the back of Lauren Koslow's head, with Kate clutching a martini.

3 hours ago, Faulkner said:

The Stephen Nichols tribute to Tyler Christopher was nice. 

Nice, sure...but I did not appreciate that he was singled out while other actors were shelved into the Memoriam.

3 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Its too bad the other legends won't get that. Just a pic and that's it.

Exactly. The Memoriam was OK - but I think given the magnitude of performers who died, they could have done a tribute to several of them incorporating at least a moment of footage. The BAFTA and British Soap Awards do it and it's so effective and beautiful. No offence to the performer of the song, but had they used simple instrumental music, this could have been easily accomplished.

2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Are Liza and Susan estranged? she didn't mention her at all

Yes, Liza commented on Instagram that she had long been estranged from her parents when Helmut died. Susan was clearly emotional in her speech but given she's never discussed the estrangement, I thought it interesting that she specifically paid tribute to her son. I really liked how Susan pointed out the actors she'd worked with who were now elsewhere. Although I doubt she'd do it, I would love to see her guest on Y&R and share a scene with Peter Bergman. They have always seemed to have a warm friendship over the years.

2 hours ago, SFK said:

I'm glad that Andreas was there with his mom.

He has always seemed like a kind son in the little snippets you'd see of him over the years when La Lucci was interviewed. 

2 hours ago, SFK said:

I have no idea. It seemed like one moment they were making talk show appearances together, and the next they were estranged. When Helmut passed, Liza shared that she had been estranged from her parents for years and was not invited to his funeral.

Just my two cents but I hazard to guess that Liza is the problem given Susan (& Helmut), Andreas, his family, remain close. As well, Liza's tone when Helmut died was cold. I just wonder what Brooke Kerr is thinking given she worked with Liza for years. 

2 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

Dedicated to Sonya and Nneka but no Tyler, Billy, or Jackie?

Really disgusted by that. Jackie was part of the bedrock of that show. 

Overall, a really dull show. The tributes to Y&R and GH were incredibly bad. The lack of footage for actor nomination packages, no clip packages of any value for each show, the ceremony is a husk of itself. 

This is actually heinous. Krista Allen stepped in as a recast and was Emmy nominated in her first year. She flew in the part. This is a really hideous decision on the part of B&B and Brad Bell. 

Per the Deadline article, she's moving to Atlanta so I think she's past caring about daytime. 

SLC

It's been a good season but I think after this episode, and what appears to be coming, that they're in need of a few cast changes.

Little Girl is trying to stir up problems wherever she can because she has nothing going on.

Monica is not someone I can get behind. She feels very dishonest. She's now posted on her socials that her mother had nothing to do with her family not seeing her in Bermuda. I feel like she went for the pity instantly to try and soften the cast up for what was to come with Heather. Monica somewhat revels in her 'honesty' about what a terrible person she is. Affair, criminal arrest, debts, lawsuits. She is not someone I would want to be around.

BH

This is a very good season with a few false notes.

Dorit's time is up. She brings nothing to the show and her attempts at conflict fall flat. Crystal was very effective at shutting her down at the Sutton event by basically yawning.

Annemarie is insufferable. Please get her off the screen. Her comments about Sutton's esophagus problem being "medically not true" is actually ridiculous. A narrowing esophagus is a common problem. Many people struggle with swallowing or have an issue called achalasia. Also, her husband must be a real prize to say she's straight 8.5s. Like vile Kyle, she laughs at her own jokes. She is such a flop and clearly brought on to prop Kyle.

Crystal is dull and I don't see any storyline for her aside from arguing with Annemarie. 

Erika continues to have a great season. She's way, way more likeable than she has been the last few years.

Sutton is a chaotic mess but I like her. She isn't being pushed around by anyone.

Garcelle is fabulous. Kyle tried to divide her and Sutton about the ring comment, but Garcelle owned it. I love her family scenes too. 

The situation with Kye's friend is obviously a tragedy. However, I struggle to muster up sympathy for her because she had none for LVP when her own brother committed suicide and openly told them she was in trouble and needed space and peace. No, back then Kyle and her coven attacked LVP relentlessly. Now Kyle has an idea of what hell it feels like. She remains transparent with respect to her sisters...they will never be close or trust her.

Y&R

Jess Walton as Jill: 1989 when Philip dies and it's just Jill and Katherine in the hospital room and she looks at Katherine, with this look of sheer horror on her face, and says "It's your fault, it's always been your fault. First the father and now the son!" Jess captured 16 years of history in that scene and she was indisputably Jill from then on.

DAYS

Lauren Koslow as Kate: 1996 first day in the role...but there is another date, when Kate framed Sami for Franco's murder, in 1998, where the culmination of Sami vs Kate started to reach its fever pitch and nobody could dispute Lauren made the role her own.

22 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I hate this but it’s for the best.

Peter Porte was completely wasted. Wasted even worse than Zach Tinker, which I didn’t think was possible. All because Ron Carlivati is too hard for Leo and too small minded to have a gay actor play anything but a gay character.

SMH

I wouldn’t even be surprised if he was angry when Peter Porte was first cast in Beyond Salem. 

This storyline and this pairing were total garbage. How do you get this talented, charismatic, and absolutely gorgeous actor, who can be a villain, can do comedy and can have good romantic chemistry with both men and women and then approve such an awful, mean spirited and nonsensical storyline for him? And pair him with the worst character on the show?

They didn’t just drop the ball with this storyline and character. They dropped it, ran it over with a friggin 18-wheeler and then set what was left on fire. 

I’m sure we’ll see him again. I just hope that Leo is dead or gone when we do. There’s still an obvious storyline there with Megan. And also with the ISA connection #Dandrew

In the meantime, I’m sure Peter Porte will land roles that are actually good enough for him. I may not miss his character all that much but I’ll definitely miss him

EDIT: My apologies, for the rant lol

Agree - Peter Porte is a good, talented, actor and was wasted in the role and by the writing. Ron is a problem and his propping of useless Leo is an issue. 

So not a single appearance for Lauren Koslow in November since she's been dropped to recurring? That is so disappointing. 

1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

https://people.com/alexis-bellino-dating-john-janssen-shannon-beador-ex-rhoc-exclusive-8410750

 

Next season of OC is gonna be so messy. Alexis is dating John Janssen, Shannon's recent ex and is in talks to return to the show with this new relationship

58 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Man, Bravo is dirty and the dirty people involved are dirtier. First, Sweet Tea brought on to Married to Medicine, now this. 

It's like they want Shannon to drunkenly drive off a winding road over a cliff. Y'all know she's emotionally imbalanced. 

Shannon has been such an entitled pig about her DUI that I can’t have much sympathy for her.

Back up the Brinks truck to Alexis and let’s get this season rolling. 

17 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I didn't realize Attitudes lasted this long or that Linda had a male co-host (per Wiki Linda left not too long after this due to disagreement with the changes in tone).

@DaytimeFan @SFK

@Vee There is a brief clip of Linda Blair on Joe Bob Briggs' show early in this.

Linda was a workhorse and stayed at Attitudes for a long time - that exposure was so good for her career.

Her cohost in that clip, Jerry, went on to be a very well liked and respected correspondent for Extra - he always got a warm welcome from anyone he met on the red carpet. 

1 hour ago, Cat said:

@DaytimeFan @Gray Bunny @Taoboi @Faulkner 

Luann and Sonja keeping busy with a last-minute endorsement deal with Uber Easts.

There's an Alex McCord diss in there, too. Or is it a nuRHONY diss?

 

Make that money Lu and Sonja!

Harmless, cute, light as a feather TV movie. I'm glad they all got to do it and qualify for their SAG/AFTRA health insurance. 

My bet is the part Morgan played was originally written for Dame Joan. The mention of 5 husbands and cooking English Christmas cake, and the dialog in general, had Joan written all over it. 

Loni's part also sounded like Morgan when they mentioned she studied rare diseases (Morgan does this IRL). 

The irony is for my griping that Loni did not have the soap pedigree, she was actually the best part of it and that's because she's a sitcom actress. She knew how to liven up the lines. She looked and sounded very much like she did in the 90s. By far the most vibrant and she's 78. 

While Donna looks good, she's very stiff and her voice, like Linda Gray's has aged considerably. Both Donna and Linda seemed a bit frail. 

Nicollette looked really hard.

Morgan is certainly zaftig but she still sounds like herself and has her swagger. 

I wonder how this might have been different if produced by Hallmark - their movies tend to have a sweeter tone. 

5 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Kyle and Morgan are definitely screwing. Morgan’s voice is awful. 

Also dislike the new girl already. 

Agreed on all counts. Morgan is bizarre. 

It took about 2 minutes of exposure for me to dislike new girl. 

5 hours ago, Cat said:

BH:

GREAT episode, finally. I was hooked from start to finish.

First of all, Morgan Wade. Even Stevie Wonder can see what's going on between her and Kyle -- it jumped off the screen.

The entire sequence made me think about Kyle's relationships with women generally. Kyle has long defined herself by her close friendships with female friends. It reminds me of Taylor Swift's infamous Girl Squad. Kyle's most dynamic and foundational relationships have always been with women, from her mother down. These relationships are aspirational, they are super-tight and maternal, offering her a closeness she has always sought, they are also incredibly competitive (Kim, LVP, Kathy), and they are about coveting what the other woman has (a Villa Rosa lifestyle; tattoos). The coveting may reflect Kyle's ongoing search for who she actually is.

I'm also reminded that none of Kyle's friends are actually close with each other, and are often pitted against the other (Faye vs LVP, Dorit vs Teddi). After a lowkey sensual tattoo session with Morgan, Kyle ran home to Mauricio to show him. It was almost like she was trying to provoke him.

Now we are seeing an implosion in Kyle's friendship with Sutton, whom she had been trying to woo over to her side. (BTW Dorit seems almost thrilled by this turn of events). Sutton expected this shift from Kyle, which is why she had the 'Kyle's Marriage' card ready to play.

Garcelle knew it was coming -- she silenced the yappy chihuahua newbie at the Dinner Party From Hell 3.0 with a sharp "HER MARRIAGE" and stirred the pot wonderfully. 

It made a lot of sense that in an episode devoted to Kyle's female relationships, the OG Dinner Party from Hell was evoked. "He will never emotionally fulfil you, ever. As soon as the kids are bigger, you'll have nothing in common. Know that." LOL I live for those words! The appearance of Faye, Camille, and even Justin also took me back.

Denise did not show up tipsy. I think we all know Denise was on something else.

 

100%. Their chemistry leapt off the screen. I don't believe either of them have the acting capability to manufacture that.

New Girl reminds me of Tonya from RHOA, but much thirstier.

Kyle is such a hypocrite - always has been - but I'm glad Sutton came ready to play. I thought the eating disorder comment from Kyle was really ugly. Scratch beneath the surface with that one and she's a horrible person.

7 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Aaron Spelling was a big fan of Bill Bell and always said he liked the way he crafted a story and hoped to do a daytime soap in the Bell style. 

Spelling used Y&R clips in his film Mr. Mom.  

I always wondered if Aaron knew Bill or was a fan of his. That's nice to know. 

3 hours ago, te. said:

I think it's unfair to compare anyone to Donna - she's clearly had great styling, plastic surgery and the ability to know when to quit and not go for the "too youthful" route. She looks like herself, even if it's blatantly obvious she's had quite a bit of help over the years.

 

I think the biggest issue with Morgan's wig is that the hairline looks so very off. Donna's looks like it's based in her own hairline while Morgan is clearly going for the straight-on fake look.

I’m no wig expert but I think Donna’s is a human hair lace front while Morgan’s is not - more like shake and go.

11 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I just remember the disdain Jeanne Cooper had for the writing under Arena's tenure. Arena, I do believe, had some good intentions but she really just... was not made for the role(s) she played.

I recall Jeanne referring to her as "Maria Arena"...she left off the Bell.

RHOBH

Kathy Hilton couldn't help herself and made some definitive statements about Kyle and Mauricio's breakup:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12796997/Kathy-Hilton-breaks-silence-Kyle-Richards-split-Mauricio-Umansky-saying-sister-strong-hinting-separation-serious.html

4 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Watched some of that Wendy/Nneka mess from last night’s Potomac. Ugh, that whole scene was cringe, and not in a good way. Ashley, Gizelle, and Mia all gotta go. It’s not fun.

I really do not enjoy this Nneka at all. She is very impressed with herself and I see no reason for her to be.

3 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Mia should have been OUT after her first season. Period.

Agreed on all counts. I did not enjoy last night's episode at all and think this season of Potomac is a dud.

Given the woman who made allegations against Chris Bassett has now admitted she made all of it up and is admitting that she's 100% in the wrong it's time to take a look at who instigated and promoted that lie. Robyn and Gizelle both fanned those flames on their podcast.

Mia is a dud. Everything Wendy said about her appears to be true.

The sole redeeming feature of the season is Karen. She is still hilarious. 

I have always thought the reason why I consider Bill Bell's Y&R and B&B to be a 'cut above' the rest comes down to a single word: control. 

Bill had a singular vision and executed that singular vision for 25 years at Y&R. After 1998 through to his death in 2005, he still exerted an amount of control that no other soap opera writer/producer did at both Y&R and B&B. 

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Kind of shocked at Morgan in that interview. She can barely move her face. 

You can mostly hear the age in Donna and Linda's voices (or from dental work possibly) but they both look more real to me.

I know it's not fair to go on about plastic surgery so much but in cases like this I was transfixed.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

It doesn't help that she's heavier these days, too.  Her extra pounds make her face look heavier and puffier than it should.

That is exactly the problem. Morgan apparently had a health issue from exposure to mold and in her own words, she "ballooned" and she's struggled to take that weight off. 

Fillers are so challenging to balance against symmetry and weight gain throws it all off. Morgan is a nice, well liked person and I wish she hadn't had to deal with this.

I also dislike the wig she's wearing there - I think she recently cut her hair for a role, but she would look better with a more voluminous wig like the one Donna is wearing that would frame her face and give some balance.

7 hours ago, Khan said:

Even Susan Sullivan or (God help us) Joan Van Ark might have made sense than Loni, lol.  Don't get me wrong, I love Loni and her refusal to play Jennifer Marlowe as just another "office bimbo," but her inclusion kinda, sorta blows the whole concept behind the casting of this particular movie.  *shrug*

Meanwhile, I'm wishing they had had opportunities to include cameos from other soap divas - Dame Joan, Linda Evans, Susan Lucci, Michele Lee, Ana-Alicia, Dee Hall, you name it - but they probably didn't.

Susan Sullivan would have been wonderful. She recently had surgery for lung cancer (she never smoked). Joan Van Ark might look like a burn victim but she has a sense of humour about herself. I enjoyed her scenes in the Dallas reboot. 

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

 

I loved that Morgan pointed out that Loni wasn't like the rest of them. She knows what's up.

Nicollette should loosen up. Knots Landing was a primetime soap - it just happened to be better made than the rest of them and lacked some of the melodramatic production flourishes.  

9 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I knew if anyone on this board would feel the same as me, it was you. LK has never phoned it in a day on the show, you can find things for Kate to do. Like first off, release Lucas from prison. For some reason Lani and Lucas are the only two nice characters that have actually had to stay in prison for an extended stay and it’s dumb when you see who is walking around free in Salem . Lucas gets out, Kate instantly has something to do. 

Yes, this really makes me sad. Sad for Lauren, sad for those who love to watch her, and sad for the show.

There is certainly every possibility that she can be recurring like Judi Evans is and have good scenes to play. DAYS has done recurring better than a lot of shows.

What I do not want to see is an unceremonious exit for Kate and LK. That is not how a character like Kate Roberts goes out. That is not how an actress like LK goes out. 

She has been a 27 year veteran of the show for an uninterrupted run. No one on the cast could claim that anymore.
 

On 11/13/2023 at 8:31 PM, Bright Eyes said:

Lauren Koslow is now on recurring, according to @JAS0N47. She was consecutively on contract the longest. Josh Taylor, having been continuously on contract since 2004, takes that distinction, which makes it even sadder. It'll be interesting to see if this changes when Albert Alarr is officially gone.

I didn't see this elsewhere, but I am really sad to hear this. She has been a favourite of mine for decades and always made whatever nonsensical writing they threw at her work. 

That press release was about as laudatory as I've ever witnessed. Whew.

9 hours ago, Cat said:

RHOP

Wendy remains the target for attacks, one season after Mia laid hands on her (and really should have been fired for it).

Nneka was clearly hired with the intent to 'bring down Wendy.' And Ashley is turncoat as always, setting up the takedown because the only alliance she is loyal to is the GEBs.

None of the women, except Karen and Candiace, can actually match Wendy for smarts. (K and C could teach her something about quick wit!). So the GEBs decide to lean into one of the uglier African stereotypes out there. And Nneka went along with this narrative! Her family must be so proud that for millions of viewers, the Nigerian diaspora in the US will now be reduced to 'Osu' and voodoo.

Robyn going along with this and making herself the focal point of the shrine nonsense -- I can't with this bully. She is laser-focused on hating Wendy. Sometimes I feel sorry for Robyn's marital situation but, frankly, she brings misery and karma upon herself. I hope the Nigerian Miss Dorothy gets invited to reunion to dress these idiots down and speak her piece.

It seems that after the GEB tried, and failed, to take down Karen, that Wendy is the only option they have left. I hope she doesn't go down without a fight.

Robyn deserves all the misery headed her way. 

This Nneka seems like a terrible person, so I won't be surprised at anything she pulls. 

Ashley should be ashamed of herself. She has no scruples or morals or ethics. 

Season 6, the final season, has premiered with the first 4 episodes. The final 6 will be released in mid December.

I have watched all of the first 4 and found myself overcome in a couple of instances. One was a throwaway line by a minor character that meant so much now that The Queen is gone. The other concerned the death of Diana and the particular creative choice that the writers made.

Elizabeth Debicki was absolutely perfect. Flawless. She has set a bar that no actress will ever achieve in portraying Diana. My heart broke for her. 

Dominic West was also excellent as Charles. There is a particular scene after Diana has died in which he portrayed this level of grief that was also heartbreaking. Anyone who recalls Diana's death in 1997 will likely agree that he captured Charles' devastation. 

The writing was good in that it treated Diana, Charles, and The Queen fairly and none of them were villains. It acknowledged the complexity of their lives intersecting. There is a scene in the first episode of this season where Diana and Charles talk about being brilliant at divorce and I am so glad it was included because not everyone remembers that the last year of Diana's life was harmonious with Charles and there was footage and photographs of the two of them hugging goodbye after an event for William. By that point in time, relations were friendly, which is why Charles was as devastated as he was when she died. 

The only thing I think the writers got wrong was their portrayal of Mohammed Al Fayed. The episode devoted to him in the previous season was so excellent that the writing for him in this season felt a bit more of a caricature.