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That was a snooze of a finale.

I'm not at all convinced about anything to do with Ralph and Drew.

Kenya's baby storyline is as fake as one of Kim's nylon wigs.

Kandi keeps doing projects while showing exactly nothing of her real life.

Marlo should show more of her business because there might be something interesting to mine there.

Sheree...I hope her filler dissolve. Her former nose was like Tina Turner/Cleopatra - it didn't need anything.

Sanya had the most real and sad ending - her miscarriage sounded so sad and traumatic. 

I am delighted by this news. Victor's death and a return for Vivian is a natural story beat that had to be played. So glad Louise is back. I just hope she gets some great scenes with Lauren Koslow. 

3 hours ago, divinemotion said:

Oh my god... SJP is really at fault that she even exists. You people are so toxic towards that woman. She struggled to convey warmt? Are you a clinical psychologist that specialises in facial expression... SJP didnt struggle at nothing. You people are never happy with her and thats disturbing.

That you took the time to respond, with such excellent spelling and grammar, is all the affirmation I need. Thank you.

33 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Meanwhile, I've only started episode 4 of NuRHONY on my own, and I don't feel compelled to continue. If there's already a midseason trailer out, it must be a short season! I'm sure I'll sit down and binge it eventually. 

Side note: In its place, hubby & I are watching early years of Married to Medicine. We started at Season 3 (I think); the year Dr. Heavenly joins. I am *loving* this show... 

Indeed, I don't find NuRHONY all that compelling, but I'm hanging in there to give it a fair shot. The ratings are 60% of what the last season of original RHONY brought in and those numbers don't build a strong case for dumping current casts - like any soap it breaks the habit and the loyalty and the audiences don't come back or migrate.

Married to Medicine is very fun to watch. Cannot wait for its return.

Watched Kim’s cameo. She looked great, still had her Samantha vibe, and got paid a fortune.

SJP really struggled to convey any warmth. You can tell she hated that HBO mandated that cameo. 

40 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Atlanta is only getting a 2 part reunion. Thank god. 

Absolutely - it’s been a dreadful season. They’re all to blame: cast, production, Bravo. 

13 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

And here I thought they'd drag out the Drew post-filming divorce drama... which I'm sure they do.  It means so much of everything else is a dud. Glad to know it'll be a tighter reunion. 

Yeah, I just can’t with how bad this season has been. Much as I disliked the idea of rebooting RHONY, I see the logic to it, and it might be time to do so with ATL. The cast just doesn’t work and too many of them want to control their narrative to an extreme degree and all the storylines ring fake.

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

Angela Lansbury | 60 Minutes Archive - video Dailymotion

Thank you. I had never seen it before. When she cried and had to drink both her tea and water, as her chin is quivering, in order to steady herself...that was really sad and made me mad. 

1 hour ago, kalbir said:

Les Moonves knew exactly what he was doing when he moved Murder, She Wrote to a time slot that had been a dead zone for CBS since Fall 1985. At a time when CBS could not afford to have any tank jobs, he straight up sabotages their only scripted show that was in the 1994/95 Top 10.

Yes, it was intentional sabotage. He murdered the show. For no reason whatsoever. As Angela said in the 60 Minutes piece, Sunday was always going to be a family evening (as it still is to this very day). 

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I remember some comments about this with regard to one of the videos that Murder She Wrote recap woman on Youtube made, about the episode with Andrew Stevens as a smooth talker who was into older women and might have been a killer - that it couldn't have been done in later seasons of the show. 

That is the exact episode I watched yesterday! The ending is such you don’t know if Stevens is a killer or not. Neither does Jessica, and she tells him so.

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I loved the episode from the final season that shaded Friends. Mainly because I never liked Friends anyway.

After seeing that 60 Minutes interview from 1996 where Angela Lansbury tore up when talking about the end of Murder, She Wrote, I totally get why the final season had episodes that took swipes at both Friends and CBS. 

Angela did not give a f--- about being elegant and classy with her shade. She was hurt and rightfully so and I don't blame her for reacting the way she did.

That final season move by CBS to Thursday 8 pm wasn't a tank job, it was straight up sabotage.

Is the 60 Minutes episode available anywhere?

I've been able to re-watch the first season as its airing on Canadian television.

What strikes me is the different tone compared to the later seasons. The show feels quirkier, a little more violent/dangerous, and Jessica's characterization is a bit more eccentric New Englander than the sophisticated, but still very warm, woman she became. 

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Geez, what a tough day. David Jacobs created some of the longest-running and most influential shows of all time and still never really got the credit he deserved. What a brilliant man.

Truly - a pioneer of prime time soap opera. JR, Sue Ellen, Valene, Abby, Karen, Bobby, Pamela - we know all these characters by first name because they were so iconically created. 

3 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

Jessel doesnt like her husband and I can see a divorce by the end of next season. People will get in his ear and rghtfully so bc the way she disrespects him on camera to his face and others is appalling

Agreed. The word is that Jessel rented her apartment for the show, which is why she had no idea about Tribeca.

51 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Never say Never Forgive: The Deidre and Suzanne Story. 

Streaming soon on Peacock

That made me laugh. 

On 8/19/2023 at 7:40 AM, 1974mdp said:

Overall, I thought Friday was the best episode I have seen on DAYS in a very long time. No sci-fi nonsense, silly Leo storyline, over the top Dimera antics but just simple character exploration. I've loved the characters expressing the fact that Victor had a very dark side, too. All the different reactions to his death have been very well-written.

It really was a week of very good episodes. It goes to show that the budget/sets/lighting are not the problem. Lazy writing and producing is the problem. When the cast is given the material, they run with it. 

Like so many have said, I appreciated that Victor's death didn't result in universal praise for him. He was a very grey character and there were plenty of shades to him that got discussed in each of the episodes.

I especially liked that the writing for the Kate and Roman scenes did not involve Roman displaying even a hint of insecurity or jealousy. He even poked fun at the fact that Kate and Victor were really two peas in a pod when it came to their ruthlessness. 

On 8/19/2023 at 2:38 AM, AbcNbc247 said:

It really is.

Maggie was the one who was there when DJ died. And she was maid of honor at Marlena’s wedding. 

You would think that after all this time, Dee and Suzanne would’ve at least tried to bury the hatchet. And then we’d finally get Marlena/Maggie scenes again. 

It really is strange. There was a scene back when ED was playing Kristen where Maggie overheard Marlena and Victor talking about the tape being played at Brady's wedding...I think that was the most recent time where they shared a stage, even though they weren't in close physical proximity and did not share any lines. Whatever happened between them had to have happened around 2002/2003. I'm still convinced they blew up Tuscany restaurant just so Suzanne couldn't drop by Deidre's table...

4 hours ago, Antoyne said:

This is the best OC season in YEARS.

It most definitely is a major return to form. Much as Tamra would take the credit for it, a lot of the success lies with Shannon, whose relationship naturally imploded, and Emily, who has somehow became this IDGAF queen. 

ATL

Aside from Drew's marriage imploding, this show is awful and likely deserving of a hard reboot a la RHONY. 

Kenya is just heinous. The fake baby storyline really shows what a hypocrite she is. For years she's been saying Marc Daly is her living nightmare...yet she'd use his embryos and have another child biologically connected to him? She is so hollow and so fake. No wonder production didn't come running to her aid when she wiped out in front of the hotel. She seems just awful to deal with.

NuRHONY

I like Brynn, Jenna, Ubah, and Sai. 

Jessel and Erin are both very irritating, so the fact they're feuding with each other is a bust for me because I don't feel compelled to side with either of them. 

B&B: After 2003 till 2012 was that era for me. The Marones were an attempt to move the show forward and although in the long term they were a total flop and Jack Wagner, in particular, became an albatross for the show, it had its moments. I always enjoyed Stephanie sticking it Jackie Marone whenever she could. However, I really feel that Darlene Conley and Susan Flannery took the show with them with their respective exits in 2007 and 2012. 

Y&R: The show was true to itself till 2005, the year Bill Bell died and the Bell family's management of the show ended and Sony's presence grew. In hindsight, the era from 2005 to 2010 was quite watchable, even though the show faltered. From 2010 to 2013, the quality deteriorated further, but there were still great scenes in isolation. But ever since Jeanne Cooper's death, it's become what it is today.

DAYS: I still find the show watchable because it's a true melodrama. It's been larger than life since the 1980s and has this familiar, comfortable feel. It hasn't touched the quality of Y&R for decades. Just a totally different show and style. A lot comes down to the cast who make even the most preposterous stuff easy to watch. 

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

That's very valid.  I don't exactly disagree with you either.  I just can understand why the show did it the way that they did.  We don't actually know if they don't find a body (I haven't read spoilers, so I could be wrong).  There could be closure.   At this point I would say I am neutral on it until I see the entire thing play out.

I think this story could lead to Maggie or someone connected to her, discovering Bo. Then there will be closure as to Victor's fate. There's zero possibility they're recasting the character.

15 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

 

Doug Davidson, Kristoff, Kate and Christian were always listed in the contract cast despite recurring status.

Didn't Doug explain that he was offered recurring but no statement would be made and he would stay in the credits as contract-ostensibly out of respect to the actors but actually to avoid backlash.

Doug can spin it however he wants, but I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt because he’s so bitter.

The arrangement is no different than what Tracey Bregman, Beth Maitland, Eileen Davidson, and Jess Walton have all received. 

11 hours ago, Faulkner said:

This new cast of NYC just isn’t holding my attention, which bums me out as they looked so good on paper. I thought perhaps the women had stronger friendships and bonds, but turns out they don’t? We see them bonding and getting to know each other but not really interacting much with the city, which is a huge missed opportunity. NYC isn’t really a character on the show in the way it should be (or maybe this series is an admission that NYC is well and truly dead). They also lack a strong supporting cast. It just feels… slight.

That sums up my feelings. I watched all of the episodes but when last night’s came around I skipped it and didn’t care or miss it. 

9 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

So, Alarr will sue Corday Inc. 

He will have his own account & he till try to get cronies to testify for him. No idea if they will vanish or stick. 

Corday inc. will have the 2-month report which interviewed 30+ people. The SAGAFTRA reports from this week. Testimony they might get from cast or crew. Examples of fan reaction online. 

Surely with that Corday Inc. would fight instead of settle. 

Anyway, that's how I hope it would stack up. 

I have one question. I'm not sure where the 2 million figure came from. Seems so high. Was that confirmed? 

9 hours ago, FancyShoes said:

Personally I don’t think it will stick. If anything I am sure he making all this noise because he didn’t think he would be fired. Looking at his resume, he has only been working in soaps and with it only being 4 soaps left he is not looking good to go knock on the other 3 soaps doors asking for a job. Knowing Corday tried to keep all this under the rug until Deadline and days fans was dead on his neck, he will try to settle this quietly too. 

Obviously, we don't know what's gone on behind the scenes, but I hope that what actually took this week to get sorted was a settlement with AA. I think that's why it took so long to announce his exit and why he was allowed to publish a lengthy, personally slanted, statement, and why the statement from Corday was so short, bland, and inconsequential. 

If AA does sue, I think he'll have a terribly expensive uphill climb. The entire cast will testify against him, ex-cast members will testify against him, and there may be crew who would testify against him as well. On a balance of probabilities, which is the legal test in a civil lawsuit, I don't see how he'd succeed. 

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Deliver news late Friday so that it dies over the weekend. 
 

23 hours ago, Antoyne said:

RHONY episode 3

I want to like this show but this cast is SO petty. We’re just now getting to know them and the things they’ve been getting upset about are so trivial and forced to me that I don’t care. They spent the whole episode berating Jenna because god forbid she had to work at 6:30am and they were partying. Like WHAT?!

I'm still watching it, trying to give it a fair shake, but I find the women petty and dim. It reminds me of how I felt about RH of Dubai. 

On the opposite end of the spectrum I just finished Miami's latest season and reunion and that franchise is incredibly good. 

49 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

 

Paul Telfer under Arianne Zucker's latest IG post.

Based on the tone of that post, I wonder if Ari is still with the show. A lot of past tense. 

8 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

It is insane that nothing has been done. He should've been shown the door. What is the hold up?

It may be a troublesome contract with AA that requires some negotiation for his exit or working out a contract with AA's replacement, or both.

Either way, it's taking far too long. That the cast had to band together is really appalling. 

11 hours ago, Errol said:

The last time Ken Corday was photographed was in March of this year when the show got picked up for two years. Incidentally, scenes taped around that time will air next month, which will also mark the one year anniversary of the show's move to Peacock.

Thank you - I was going off of GettyImages - so if he was up and about in March 2023, then his health cannot be an excuse. 

5 minutes ago, SheenaSoaper said:

Is JFp taking over the DOOL?

No. Baseless internet rumour. 

4 minutes ago, Vee said:

My first thought. But if the person I think it is really wants to be a leader they should put their name to it. It's not like they're a stranger to publicity, and they're almost up there with Lucci. It would be hard to ignore.

I am not going to attribute to illness for Ken Corday what incompetence, disinterest and decades of buck-passing and studied denial and avoidance have always given us before.

We're definitely thinking of different people...but they're friends off set, despite their on set children having a tumultuous onscreen history. 

It's a fair comment re Corday. He has a long history of burying his head in the sand for a long time...but what seems strange about this is that a report was done, given to his production company, and he still didn't intervene.

Even a single example of what AA is alleged to have done is cause for termination.