Paul Raven

The show is definitely suffering by having Darlene's love life front and center every week. The new agey boyfriend is not working for me -he presents as creepy. And she's barely broken up with Ben. If Darlene went backburner a bit, then they could explore other characters/stories in with more depth.

I get that , but at the time had Lauren thought Paul was dead, it would have been a great motivation for her to marry Scott (to me, that never came across as a great love match) Then when Paul is discovered to be alive it sets up a natural conflict b/w Scott and Lauren as he wonders whether she married him for the right reasons or as just a way to deal with Paul's death.

Hard to believe that Bell would get rid of Jeanne, but if that's what she said...Wasn't this one of the times she needed time off? So maybe it was a case of 'take the time and we'll see how things go' Maybe Jeanne saw this as pretty much getting the boot,especially if it was a low time in her personal life. I recall Traci and 'Tiffany' being mentioned but only in the Jerry Douglas era. How much earlier were the family mentioned? Agree, this is a fascinating time in the show's history. Messy for sure and that's without getting into the Victor/Julia/Brock/Michael story or the Derek/Judy Chancellor mess .

OK, thanks Broderick for that perspective. So maybe another problem (among all the other 1980 goings on) was the casting of Jack? Terry Lester had tested for Snapper I think when Espy left. How long b/w Bond's last appearance and Deborah's arrival? Edit Just read Will's response so maybe a month or so. Perhaps her sudden departure put a hold on the story progressing.

Thanks for that. So it looks like Sean Garrison was John Abbott #1. Maybe that didn't get mentioned because originally John was not going to be a major player. Although we did see him in that scene with Bond. Perhaps the plan was for John to be a stumbling block in the Jill/Jack romance and not another older man Jill was attracted to. As for Bond and the negotiations, surely contracts would have been signed off before she joined the show. Unless Bond started off as recurring? Maybe they agreed to that and then Bond's agent thought he had the upper hand? Though that seems unlikely as Y&R didn't seem to do that, especially with major roles.

Jill got the job at Jabot in May, so that is when Brett Halsey was hired also I believe. He had had two previous soap roles as Clay on SFT and Adam on GH but had done movies in the 60's and lived in Europe for many years and acted there. He wrote a couple of fiction books based on his experiences. One was about soaps and had me guessing as to what real life people he based the characters on. i think Bill just had trouble fitting in all these stories and couldn't get the Jabot story of the ground. Obviously he was not inspired by Bond as Jill. Although we never know the real reason actors are dropped. Maybe Bond had trouble with the pace of daytime or took John Conboy's parking spot?

Was amused by Connie Ford coming off all Helen Hayes of soaps with her 'Most of us are used to working in the the-ar-ter...' At that point when was the last time La Ford had been on stage?

Imani reappears to flirt with Nate - again, and Elena grimaces. They needn't have bothered taping that scene as it's been played several times. Just insert it from a previous ep. As for high drama, Phyllis is being sued by an unhappy client over the Escrap Club. Several minutes were spent on that nonsense. Business intrigue in the corridor at Newman Media. Amanda and Imani are going great guns at their new law firm! You know, the one we have never seen .

We saw scenes of Bond Gideon with Sean Garrett (?) as John posted here. The confusion lies with Garrett as he was never announced as playing John, it was always Halsey. The thinking was he was a temp for Halsey. We need now to solve when the role of John started and who played him.

That is so cool that we were able to match episodes.

Love of Life Sheila Webb ??? Alan's secretary 65/66

Ep 1869 Airdate Tues July 22 1980 Cast Greg Stuart Snapper Carl Casey Mary Nikki Paul John Jack Jill Matthew Sumiko Steve Peggy Sets/Scenes to be taped on each set Campus Park Steve Peggy Sumiko's Room Sumiko Matthew Sumiko Paul Hospital Room Mary Carl Casey Hospital Waiting Area Greg Stu Snapper Greg Snapper Nikki Greg Snapper Greg Snapper Jill Nurse John Abbott Office/Hospital Phone John Jack Jack Jill Jack Jill Snapper New World Commune Porch Paul Matthew Nikki Paul Nikki Matthew Sumiko Paul Nikki Paul Nikki Matthew Matthew Nikki Looking at synopses- Mary was in hospital after her miscarriage Liz had been shot,by a hitman ordered to kill Greg- hence all the characters also at the hospital Peggy and Steve were investigating the cult Looks like Jill got word at Jabot from Snapper about Liz

Nat Polen The Guiding Light early 1950's.

One Life to Live Julie Duncan ??? Old friend of Samantha Vernon, joins the Health Club and shows an interest in Marcello 1981 Father Campion also appeared in 1981

Another Life went with illustrations for its debut. I don't know the show well enough to know how close the drawings were to the characters.

The couple on the stairs is Jim and Mary Matthews.

Don't worry- he'll be forgiven, everybody will be best pals again and Devon won't give the kid another thought...

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Whatever happened to ashland? He seems to have become a supporting character when he should be instigating stuff. Devon needs to guzzle a giant can of STFU. He agreed to be a sperm donor. Abby and Chance are giving him access to Dom and he's acting all put out that he can't have a bigger role in the kid's life. Too bad. Traci was drafted in to replace Jack in her scenes.

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Steve Carlson tried out for Brock on Y&R before being cast as Mark Henderson.

Paul has been mentioned so there is a slim possibility he may return, if either side has a change of heart. Doug accepted recurring but then there were a few months where he wasn't used at all and he mentioned on Twitter that he had no upcoming appearances and things took off from there. I guess he expected (maybe was told?) that he would get a certain number of episodes per month.

Maggie was married to Link Porter. When Maggie died, Link married Tammy Forrest. (Tammy was an alcoholic who was going deaf!!) Then Kay turned up and tried to steal Link. Kay may have been blonde when she arrived in town, but at some point was brunette (a pic I've seen) Perhaps she ditched the blonde to more resemble her sister and attract Link. Link died in 66. Guess Sandy was Link and Maggie'.s child. I wonder if Kay was an afterthought who was brought on to disrupt Link/Tammy or always intended to come on? How much time elapse b/w Maggie's death and Kay's arrival?

Frank Dane Stepmother Johnny Prentiss Sidney Ellstrom Guiding Light Phillip Gordon 1938 Joy Hodges Young Dr Malone Day in Court Love of Life