Paul Raven

@soapfan770 thanks for the thanks! Back in the dark days of Fred Silverman at NBC one of his few hits was Diff'rent Strokes that was winning the Fri @8 slot . So it was a surprise when next season it was moved to Wed @9 up against Charlie's Angels which had finished the season At #10. By mid season DS had won it's timeslot, the first time Angels had been defeated. Angels finished #20 and Strokes was #26. For 80/81, ABC moved Charlie's Angels to Sunday night and put Taxi up against Strokes. Strokes finished #17 and Taxi having finished #13in 79/80, flopped and was cancelled at the end of the season.

CBS announced schedule changes late July 1970. It was definitely Fred Silverman's directive. From Broadcasting mag. CBS -TV, to everybody's surprise last week, put into effect a decision to change the time periods of almost one half of its half hour primetime shows in the fall schedule. The new line -ups: Tuesday- 7:30 -8 Hillbillies (previously on Wednesday, 8:30 -9); 8- 8:30 Green Acres (previously Saturday, 9- 9:30); 8:30 -9:30 Hee Haw (unchanged); 9:30 -10 Rome With Live (previously Tuesday, 7- 7:30); 10 -11 60 Minutes! CBS News Hour (unchanged). Wednesday- 7:30 -8:30 The Storefront Lawyers (unchanged); 8:30 -9 Governor and J.I. (previously Tuesday, 9- 30 -10); 9 -10 Medical Center (unchanged); 10 -11 Hawaii- Five -O (unchanged). Saturday -7:30 -8:30 Mission Impossible (unchanged); 8:30 -9 My Three Sons (unchanged); 9 -9:30 Arnie (previously Saturday 9:30 -10); 9:30 -10 Mary Tyler Moore (previously Tuesday 8- 8:30); 10 -11 Mannix (unchanged). While advertising- agency thinking appeared confident that CBS's decision made sense, there was speculation that The Mary Tyler Moore Show had sparked the series changes. This reasoning held that CBS had been wedded to a commitment and "not a pilot" of the Moore show and CBS had become convinced that it "was throwing it away" -that the show in reality might well fail to make the grade and CBS "was prepared to swallow its commitment." Agency executives said that all this changed when CBS brass saw the first scripts of the show and "saw a rough cut. The show was good. And that triggered changes. It was pointed out that in the previous schedule, Green Acres, a rural series, was the lead -in to Arnie, about a worker who moves into the executive suite -"there was no compatibility," one source said. In the rescheduling, this source explained, "CBS used its old formula of following an established show, My Three Sons, with a new series, Arnie and Moore." CBS obtained "greater flow" by placing a contemporary series, Governor and J.J. in place of Hillbillies between Storefront Lawyers and Medical Center on Wednesday night. The same "flow" was effected with the rural -based series, Hillbillies, Green Acres and Hee Haw on Tuesday (and will go against Don Knotts and Julia on NBC -TV and Mod Squad and a movie on ABC -TV).

Moving shows around the schedule in the search for better numbers was part and parcel of programming. In the Tank Jobs/Sabotage thread we've discussed how/why this was done when programmers lost faith in a show for any number of reasons. In this thread let's look at timeslot changes that actually benefitted a show. One example was Dallas. Originally on Sunday night it did well, but CBS saw how it suffered when up against strong movies on ABC/NBC. So it got moved to Saturday night for 78/79. Bit with a weak lead in (American Girls) and strong competition it floundered. So CBS tried Fri@9 following new show Dukes of Hazzard. The ratings picked up and the rest is history. Six Million Dollar Man was struggling Friday nights in it's first season but once ABC moved it to Sun@8 it hit the Top 10.

Dukes had a rocky season 82/83 when Schneider and Wopat were absent for most of the season and the ratings dropped. However the competition Benson/Odd Couple ABC and Powers of Matthew Star NBC didn't flourish so CBS was biding their time until the original stars returned. And Dallas/Falcon Crest were still strong. Once Schneider/Wopat returned, ratings improved and the show was regularly Top 20. So I guess CBS was reluctant to shift the show when it was stabilizing. But later, it probably should have been moved and replaced with something of similar appeal. Dukes was one of those few shows that never switched time slots.

Just read that Charita Bauer appeared on Broadway in 'The Women' in 1936 that was filmed with Joan Crawford and Norma Shearer in 1939. Charita must have played the daughter of the main character. Such a pity that performers like Charita with such long and diverse careers were never properly interviewed. She would have had some stories to tell.

Once Brian Frons in 83 arrived at NBC this, along with Scruples and some others were dropped. Santa Barbara got the go ahead instead.

I'm gonna pass on Martin's office. @Paul Raven I'm gonna pass on all those offices, mid scale eatery, and Vernon's study room Can I ask why? I know budget is a consideration but don't you think the show would benefit from having all/some of these?

That's an interesting take. CBS were still trying to keep their sitcom block going at that point but as MSW and later Touched by An Angel showed that sort of programming worked well in that slot. The competition was Knight Rider and Hardcastle & McCormick, neither which would have strong female or older appeal so Mississippi might have worked there.

CBS premiered The Mississippi in April 83 at 10 pm following Dallas, after Falcon Crest had completed it's run. It was an immediate hit finishing Top 20 for every episode, finishing at #15. But CBS couldn't keep it there due to Falcon Crest, so CBS moved it to Tues 8pm for the 83/84 season up against the A Team and new ABC comedy Just Our Luck. No luck for Mississippi as it struggled to make any impact in the new timeslot and was cancelled at the end of the season, finishing at #66. Time slot hit.

Well. I could buy that Carlton was always attracted to Nicole-why not? She's abeautiful, intelligent woman. But Ted and Nicole were so loved up when we first saw them, that I can't imagine he would have any thoughts that there would be a rupture in that long term successful marriage. But as @GLATWT88 pointed out they're not playing it that way. In two minds as to whether Eva should be not be Ted's child. Surely with a crazy like Leslie turning up and dropping that bombshell, Ted should have done a DNA test.

Lin Bolen wanted to make the shows more hip. Jeopardy was regarded as old fashioned-I guess b/c it required some intelligence/general knowledge and not just trivia questions and luck. And the hosts were dressed more casually eg open necked shorts and more modern attire in general.

Ok @janea4old Thanks for that . On my computer the original image is there...???

Re The Dupree living room. The door on the left is the elevator. Any ideas what the mystery door on the right is? A closet? Rowena's hiding place?

Interesting that NBC would have an ABC performer on the show. Better to have someone from Days for cross promotion, rather than highlighting the competition. But then Anson Williams was from ABC and Gary Burghoff was on a CBS show, MMM was something Lin Bolen was responsible for scheduling. It was an expensive production that didn't pay off in ratings. Did they go to a celebrity version to try and get a bump in the numbers?

Laverne & Shirley might be a contender, Debuting Jan 76 following Happy Days it hit #1, outrating it's lead-in. After 2 seasons as TV's top show ABC moved it to Thurs @8, taking Mork &Mindy's place. So a timeslot that was already a hit for ABC. But while L&S won it's timeslot it didn't do as well as it had Tues nor as well as M&M had done. Mork was failing on Sun so ABC returned it to Thurs, but L&S didn't return to Tuesday. ABC tried it Mon @8 where it bombed . ABC returned it to Tues late in the season and it stayed there for the rest of it's run and finishing #20 for two seasons and then #25. Viewers wanted their Happy Days/Laverne & Shirley fix on Tuesdays. Too Close for Comfort. ABC Tuesdays following Three's Company 80-81 #15 81-82 #6 Moved to 9pm Thurs for 82-83, falls out of Top 30 and is cancelled.

CBD surprise hit "The Waltons' #2 in Season 2, had the other networks scheduling family friendly period based 'heartwarming' dramas. Little House on the Prairie NBC, The New Land ABC. And CBS tried a modern day version with Apple's Way. The Six Million Dollar Man-light scifi/action adventure led to The Bionic Woman spinoff. NBC tried with Invisible Man/Gemini Man. That lead to a superhero revival with Wonderwoman ABC and CBS Incredible Hulk, Spider Man.

Thought I'd resurrect this thread as there are plenty more characters/homes to discuss. Y&R Victoria lived at the Newman ranch, then the Tack House when she married Cole. Did she live there with Ryan? Where did she and JT live? She lived with Billy in the '50's' house and stayed there for years. I know it burned down at some point. Has VIctoria lived anywhere else? ATM she is one on many unhoused GC residents. Lily lived at Neil and Dru's apartment. Did she and Daniel have a place? She & Cane lived in their mid century home. Then she and Billy had an apartment. Later she moved to Devon's former penthouse. Is that where she supposed to be living presently? I think Ashley has lived mostly at the Abbott home. She lived at the ranch when married to Victor and at Brad's house that he inherited from Cassandra. BTG Ted has lived at his home and now the hotel. Andre at his studio/apartment and now with Danni. Kat moved from the guesthouse at Dani's to the Dupree home. Leslie from the apartment she shared with Eva to a hotel room? Characters w/o a home Tomas, Shanice, Vanessa and other supporting/recurring players eg Grayson, Kial, Carlton etc

Thanks @vetsoapfan Am enjoying them also. So both Mike and Ed are offscreen now for several years? Interesting to see how Bert and Bill are kept in the story.

Thanks @JAS0N47 Night by night Mon ABC 60. Laverne & Shirley 58. Angie 68. Stone 51. Family CBS 36 WKRP in Cincinnati 50. Last Resort 11.MASH 26. House Calls 28. Lou Grant NBC 3. Little House on the Prairie (2 hours) 40. Highlights of Ice Follies Tues ABC 19. Happy Days 31. Goodtime Girls 4. Three's Company 13. Taxi 16. Hart to Hart CBS 49. White Shadow 54. Because We Care (Variety charity show to raise money for Cambodia) NBC 42 Sheriff Lobo 41. NBC Tue. Night Movie: Damien-Omen Wed ABC 12. Eight Is Enough 35. Charlie's Angels 29. Vegas CBS 62. CBS Reports: Boys & Girls Together 33. Boy Who Drank Too Much (Scott Baio,Lance Kerwin) NBC 23. Real People 24. Diff'rent Strokes 39. Hello, Larry 67. Best of Saturday Night Live Thurs ABC 30. Mork & Mindy 21. Benson 18. Barney Miller 27. Soap 38. 20/20 CBS 32. Waltons 44. Barnaby Jones 22.Knots Landing NBC 45. Buck Rogers-25th Century 37. Quincy ME 59. Skag Fri ABC 57. BAD Cats 66. ABC Friday Night Movie: Swan Song (David Soul, Jill Eikenberry) CBS 25. Incredible Hulk 2. Dukes of Hazzard 1. Dallas NBC 52. Family Circus Valentine 53. Lucy Moves to NBC 65. Elvis Remembered: Nashville to Hollywood Sat ABC 61. One in a Million 56. Ropers 20. Love Boat 17. Fantasy Island CBS 63. Chisholms 65 CBS Saturday Night Movie: Hardhat and Legs (Kevin Dobson,Sharon Gless) NBC 6. CHIPS 46. BJ and the Bear 64. Prime Time Saturday Sun ABC 43. Galactica 1980 Part 3 8,Tenspeed and Brown Shoe 10. ABC Sunday Night Movie: The Deep, Part 1 CBS 5. 60 Minutes 7. Archie Bunker 15. One Day at a Time 9. Alice 14. Jeffersons 34. Trapper John MD NBC 47 Disney's Wonderful World: Donald's Valentine Day 48. Bob Hope USO Retrospective

Point taken. I do remember now Joey and Vanessa discussing property when they first met. She supposedly has a team working under her, but she seems to have plenty of time to hang around the casino and various eateries.

Bottom line - why give a character an occupation if you are not going to explore it in some way? Martin could have been in another occupation in the sense that him as a politician hasn't really affected the story. The 'secret' was something anyone with some prominence could have not wanted exposed. Like Derek the fireman-why? As it turns out they dropped that anyway and he's now at the phantom free clinic. Vanessa the realtor now is more interested in Joey's businesses. Maybe she should have just been a bored, frustrated housewife. That would have given her more motivation to get involved with Joey than being super successful already in a legit business.

Yes, Lou Grant was fading. If ABC or NBC had a strong Monday movie then House Calls/Lou Grant would suffer. The same thing happened with Cagney& Lacey and Emerald Point-the 10 pm numbers did not hold up.

By now Sharon should carry a kidnap survival kit with her at all times!

Nuff said...

Gee Vanessa if everybody you know - family, treasured friends, people you respect are telling you not to get involved with Joey...maybe you should listen? Grayson is bleeding out and Ashley wants him to start at the beginning. Girl, time to do some nursing. The story can wait. Martin is mentioning donors and fellow party members- we need to see a few to add depth to the story. Maybe that handsome older gent that runs the Country Club would be appropriate. The one we see saw with Leslie months ago.