Darn

Another in a long line of underutilized black talent who have gone onto primetime. And her case has to be one of the worse because they didn't even TRY. SHE tried, she talks about trying to generate chemistry with the actor who plays Fen but they never wrote it because they didn't care. The show simply needed an extra black person and Devon's sister was the best option. Not once did they care. It was 2018 and they couldn't be bothered to write for a beautiful (she's legitimately one of the most stunning women ever on daytime), talented actress.

I swear I was about to post the SAME THING!

Thank you! They felt really out of place on the show. And she didn’t look old enough to be Mel’s mother. Oh I I didn’t mean to tell everyone, that would’ve been despicable. What I meant was during one of their many arguments where Viki was revering her father why would Dorian never have said “what about what he did to you Victoria?“. It just felt like clearly rewritten history.

I've been watching a lot of Viki's 90s DID story and oh man is Krista Tesreau bad. I have no idea what she's doing in her scenes and seemingly neither does she. I have questions, perhaps someone can help me out (paging @Vee). So Dorian knew for almost 20 years that Victor molested Viki? And she never threw this in her face, despite being on trial for murder, out of...kindness? I know she keeps saying she thought Viki knew but I don't buy it. How long was Dorian in the secret room? How did she get out? Did everyone find out Viki kept her captive? Since I'm asking questions, I also watched an episode from 97 (the infamous one where Blair pushes Tea out of a window) and Mel is there talking to some older woman. The scenes were mindnumbingly boring so I didn't care but who was she? And then she had another scene with a man who I presume was her husband? Who are these people?

I'm trying to be all calm and sh!t and @Khan ❤️ you

Ah okay, I misread. You described one incident but were actually pulled over multiple times with him in the car. I feel bad for your ex.

You understand because you dated a black man for a year and got pulled over once? I'm not sure what your story is illustrating. What do you understand exactly? I'm trying not to be dismissive because you said you feel dismissed in conversations like this but this comment is bewildering to me. She says for people (the black audience, which CBS was surprised to learn counted for a considerable portion of Y&R's viewership) to stop watching because advertising dollars matter more than a handful of actors speaking out.

I was talking to a gay white male friend of mine yesterday and he agreed that a lot of the time you think because you're gay that you understand but trust me, you do not. Especially the experiences of a black woman in society (specifically the workplace). I'm a gay black male and I will never understand it. Unlike the other actors you listed VR has spent her life being an advocate for social justice, from foster care to civil rights, the rest are working actors who went along to get along. I assure you they've had their issues, in fact we can SEE their issues onscreen daily. The one time Kristoff complained he was punished for 3 months. And this happened within the last decade. While we have white actors who complain about their material on a regular basis but I suppose he should just be happy to be employed (which I'm sure he was and I am sure he understood the responsibility in the role he had).

The problem is that people focus on the delivery and not the message.

Except her complaints have validity. But sure she's a Karen.

She claims Brad wanted to hire her but was blocked by CBS/Sony (which does make sense since she had an active lawsuit).

Thanks for sharing those links. I've always been curious about how Malcolm and Olivia's relationship developed and how their marriage became so acrimonious. They spent so much time spitting venom over Nate (yet now the acts like Malcolm wasn't even his father).

Ah thank you. That was like...his legal name? I hate it. I completely missed his and Debbi Morgan's time on the show. I love them but I don't regret it, I knew it would be a flop when they recast her as Devon's mother and named her Harmony. Nope. No thank you. But I also envisioned Dru's return story involving amnesia and her living a full life with a second family and how that would integrate with her family in GC. It would takes months before either of her children came face to face with her (the first person to see her would actually be Phyllis because...well I love them together and of course Phyllis wouldn't tell anybody, she's a terrible person).

Who the hell is Sarge?

I thought about this a lot when Girls was on and could not crack a million viewers yet so much ink and internet chatter was exhausted on it. The racial bias is VERY clear.

16 year old Laura...law student Scotty? How old was he supposed to be?

My girl made time TODAY @Chris B great post and I share your energy. I am beyond tired of this [!@#$%^&*] and now is the time people are LISTENING and maybe change can finally [!@#$%^&*] happen. I swear to god the swear filter on this forum is so stupid. Trust me, no one under 18 is on this site. [!@#$%^&*], probably no one under 30.

Thanks you @Forever8 You have to give Chadwick Boseman props for jumping ship as soon as he saw what he his character was becoming. That is also very true. Soap characters don't mention the real world anymore, they also have no hobbies or interests or beliefs. The most they do is generically celebrate Christmas like they're in a coffee commercial. It just baffles me because these shows have 200+ episodes to produce yet won't spare the time to address something that could be impactful. What would Julius talking about real lived experiences have done exactly? Was a quarter of your viewership going to turn the channel because a black man says one sentence?

Thank you so much for sharing that @Faulkner Julius as an ADOS mentioning the Great Migration would NOT have been a stereotype, it would have been SPECIFICITY. It would explain his psychology so much better than anything else they shat out. They had a real opportunity to delve into how the black church plays such a large part in how huge swathes of the black community feel about trans people or homosexuality. I'm so upset!

WOW I've never seen this but it's exactly like Ellen Holly said. Carla gets not ONE solo closeup at her OWN WEDDING. Every time they get close to it the camera pulls out to show Viki or makes sure Viki is in the same frame. Pathetic. There's literally a white woman blocking her shot during the cake cutting scene.

I found her and REG frankly annoying (it took until the Hamilton soundtrack for me to warm up to her) but I didn't realize how good or rare it was for a soap to actually have a black woman so frontburner. Evangeline absolutely dominated the screen for most of her tenure and I can't imagine any black character getting even a tenth of the material she did.

And they proceeded to make fun of that for the next 20 years. If I were a fan of the show at the time (I guess I was but I was also 9 so...) I would have been pissed and quit immediately. Evangeline running to John's vanilla bean dick all the time over RJ felt offensive to me, RJ was one of two black men on the show and painted as the worst man in the world and Hank didn't have any story of his own until he disappeared (BTW can anyone tell me why Nathan Purdee left Y&R?).

A redemption arc is fine, building him up as a potential love interest is the real problem.

That was one of the most mind-boggling story turns I've ever seen. Yes, let's pair the woman with the man who killed her daughter. No, no it's okay because he has a new face! And is a reverend now! How the hell did any of that get through story meetings or network approval? Ghastly. This show did Brooke and Julia Barr such a disservice. Brooke was so hard for them to write after a point. They had a hard time writing for any woman over 40 that wasn't Erica.