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Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how they would have gotten around that problem. Alas, we ended up with TPTB being perfectly okay with presenting a 1 +1 = 3 situation (not literally, of course) and oddly enough, everyone going with it. ETA: I'm now cracking myself up picturing a really convoluted, Heaven Can Wait on crack situation where bad Luke, then good Luke, die. Good Luke's spirit ends up in the body of a third man (also named Luke). He looks different from TG to everyone minus the audience. TG, meanwhile, has to spend the next 30+ years never appearing in a scene with a mirror or reflective surface. Okay, enough of that silliness ...

Okay, I'm going to throw out an idea: Should GH have killed off Luke in spring-summer 1980 and had Laura fall for and commit heroic acts with his good twin and/or lookalike? On the one hand, it's not the most original idea*, but it would work later on** and I can't think of an easier way to do right by Gloria, Pat, Genie and Tony and the fanbase. Obviously we can't turn back time, but something to think about. *OLTL did it in reverse with Marco posing as Mario around this time. **A few years later, the real Sky and Raven on EON. A decade after that, Kevin arriving after Ryan on GH. Being a '90s kid, I knew the beat before the song. I still sometimes sing to myself, "Biggie Biggie Biggie, can't you see ..."

You're welcome, @Khan. I really liked the bond between Laura and Joanne, and how it was affecting Laura and Claudia.

A few months after the rape, Luke did something really disgusting. As Laura and Scotty were dancing at the disco, he changed the music playing to "Rise."

It all just sounds so rich and juicy! The kind of material an audience and a creative team can really dig into. Also, I'm loving that tidbit about Kitty's singing voice. How easily the pleasant can segue into the complex and tumultuous.

Ah, my apologies. I was hoping you'd be able to shine some light on all of this.

Yeah, Bill raping Laura was clearly depicted as a rape. The idea of it being a seduction apparently only came up twice: when Laura first claimed to a now-sober Bill that he failed to seduce her, then when she told what happened to Tom Horton. Technically Bill went to jail for involuntary manslaughter involving Kitty Horton's death, but considering she planned to blackmail him about the rape, his sentence can be considered related to the earlier crime. I think I've gotten the information correctly. If I missed anything, please let me know. What I wouldn't mind seeing is the episodes after Bill got out of jail, where Laura realized the extent of his devotion and renewed her friendship before falling back in love with him. Talk about your acting and writing challenges! Then again, Bill Bell was a skilled writer, who must have known the difference between playing all the beats and quitting when you're behind.

Interesting choice. Would you elaborate? This comment inspired me to re-read Marie Horton's character history. I'd love to see those scenes where she and Alex are trapped in the wilderness. They were trying to stop Mary Anderson from uncovering the truth that they are Jessica's parents, but the plane was sabotaged (by Kellam Chandler ... Alex had a lot of enemies in those days!). Anyway, Marie remembered why she loved Alex and why she ended up fearing him. They come oh so close to re-consummating their relationship, taboo because Marie was still a nun at the time. It's probably just coincidental (and Marie had been a nun for several years already), but if you told me this storyline was partially inspired by The Thorn Birds, I'd believe you.

I wish they'd update that Tumblr soon. I was feeling rather nostalgic tonight.

Thank you so much for that context. I was just going off of what was happening in that episode and decided Brittany seemed too dull for my liking. Donna may be a snob, but she's *my* snob, darn it! Also, the next episode would be the last for this Peter, according to AWHP. In just over a month, Michael arrives. Reginald and Mary won't show up until next summer.

"I don't want her relish." You and me both, Donna.

Thanks! This newest post answered what i was curious about, whether or not LOVING debuted better or worse than EDGE.

Oh, that's right. I wasn't sure if 10/83 meant the October issue or that it corresponded to ratings in October 1983.

Interesting that LOVING's not included. Did it not count because of the 11:30 a.m. timeslot? I'm so fascinated by how many of these shows were able to shed, then regain, viewers. I wonder if audience members did a lot more sampling or casual viewing in those days.

Even though I can't tell what Julie's screaming (something about "REAL MEN!," I think?), the part where she and Renee go at it has always been my favorite part of that clip.

You have to wonder, though -- why not just use Tanquir (from Another World)? I mean, it was already established, they had the option of carrying on Grant and Cindy's storyline, etc.

I wonder if they tried dangling any roles on GH for Eileen. Jenny? Dominique? Julia?

Rewinding back to a few days ago, I'm still cracking up at the sudden introduction of the Williams family. You might as well have had a scene where they're pulling into Genoa City with the U-Haul.

Maybe she was happy to be out of the limelight, but it's a shame a beautiful, charming personality like Jacqueline Courtney didn't segue into a later in life career as a character actress.

I'm now wondering what would have happened if NBC kept SFT at the 2:30 slot (where it was doing better than legend has it) rather than airing it at 12:30. Imagine, if you will: 12:00 -- DOCTORS (Since NBC seemed determined to kill it off, anyway) 12:30 -- TEXAS (Still likely to die opposite Y&R and AMC; a more noble fate than falling to TPIR?) 1:30 -- DOOL (OTOH, it doesn't seem like the best lead-in for SFT) 2:30 -- SFT (I'm liking the idea of OLTL leading, while the stable veteran dukes it out with the cocky upstart) 3:00 -- AW (Who knows if it could have gained some of the success GL supposedly did during GH's mid-80s hiccup?)

I know Search for Tomorrow had a target on its back, but does anyone else think it could have gone the distance between ATWT and GL?

It's fascinating -- and often heartbreaking or disgusting -- what the powers that be will put up with as long as the bottom line's not being affected. Pop culture fans often like to say things like, "I never want to hear [Tom Hanks, for example] connected with a scandal." There are certain soap actors that I don't even want to think of in the same vicinity of a scandal.

There's also a having the cake and eating it, too, aspect I'm not comfortable with. This was increased when I found the article that ran in SOD after the episode aired. https://classicsodnews.tumblr.com/post/171693446514/santa-barbara-attacks-general-hospital-soap-opera I found Marcy's comments to be the most insightful. Interesting that she didn't mention having played a victim before on AMC.

Finally found the scenes I was looking for, Eden being treated so crassly by "Linc and Laurie" before letting them have it. If that wasn't enough of a thin veil, consider the mention of producer "Betty Bounty." The juxtaposition between Eden's comments and another rape occurring is incredibly chilling.

I was watching clips from November-December 1983 and one thing jumped out at me: the oddity of not keeping Opal around for a couple weeks longer so she could be at Jenny and Tony's non-wedding. Does anyone know the exact date of Dorothy Lyman's last episode? The last upload she appears in is from Wednesday, Nov. 30 (the day Liza found out about Tad and Marian). By Monday, Dec. 19, it's mentioned that Opal left for Switzerland to get married to Ralph Purdy. With that in mind, I'm going to guess Greg crashing the wedding happened on Friday, Dec. 23 and Monday, Dec. 26.