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Yup, that was his idea. I read a review of season 1 of the original Dynasty.. where it was a story about the haves and the have nots.. but that the shift in season 2 to the Carringtons with only Claudia remaining was because viewers at the time wanted to see the wealth and prestige.. an escape from their middle class/working class life. I actually think in 2017, viewers would be more open to seeing the middle class/working class element because right now.. most of the country hates the wealthy it seems. Maybe have the Carringtons be the bad guys, the Colby's being the grey area type of characters since they newly became wealthy, and the Blaisdels being the working class/middle class section with Matthew's job providing insurance to help treat Claudia's mental illness.. and his company opting to cut insurance benefits for workers, etc. And the new show runner in a recent interview said she was conflicted about the Matthew Blasidel twist because she liked the actor and how he interacted with Cristal, etc. And that Esther had suggested the show focus more on the family aspect as opposed to the business aspect (probably recalling that she tried the business aspect in season 1 of the original show and it didn't go over well). So the show runner decided to go this route because of that. I do wonder how Claudia in this version will play out because she seems bat [!@#$%^&*] crazy already while in the original.. she had some semblance of sanity in the 1st season of the original show.

T bh, the original show wasn't masterpiece theater...it did provide the blue print for current CW and reality shows....and don't forget Alexis made throwing shade an art form. However, I have read interviews with the showrunner...who did watch the original...and she has a good rapport with esther..so I think that makes me feel a little better. Contrast that with cidre..who never watched the show nor wanted to listen to David Jacobs. Melinda Clarke is who I could accept as Alexis if she must be recast.

Those final months of loving show what happens when a network doesnt interfere..and let's the writers focus on their jobs. ABC wanted a spinoff/revamp..so the last headwriters went about doing that with a well written murder mystery, plus a logical ending to alex/ava with that annoying red headed interloper. Im sure ava was written out due to cutting costs even though Ava vs Sydney would have been fun..imho. Looking at scenes throughout the run of the show, Gwyn seemed aimless and unsatisfied..keeping up with appearances and maintaining status. So it makes sense she would finally snap (there was a period of time in the early to mid 90s that her character tried to find herself..working as a bar tender, in a hotel, and finally at Tess' agency). And her and Trisha never had a smooth relationship...she was always teying to control Trisha...who just wanted to live her life and didn't care about status..just love and contentment...a contrast to Gwyn. When trisha 'died'..gwyn felt regret and transferred those maternal feelings to Janie then Steffi. And when Trisha turned out to be alive...she thought she had a 2nd chance to repair things with her daughter...only to have her daughter not remember her and reject her. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. The final writers took the various misdirection of the Gwyn character and put it to good use.

Blake and Fallon were arguing and he had mentioned that her mother no longer had a say since she choose to leave years before....and then Cristal asked Steven about Alexis since no one would mention her..and before he could answer..they got interrupted. There are a lot of characters inteoduced..so it's smart to hold off on Alexis being introduced till later in the season...imho

Based on the last few pages...both Kim Z and Nene did some really low down and trashy stuff. I think both of them are trash and RHOA was just fine without either of them on the show. I think we need to go back to not rewarding bad behavior in reality shows. Porsha should never have been allowed to return after going after Kenya, but she was rewarded with continued employment...when she is neither married, has no kids, and isn't really housewife material. RHONJ Fun, yet sad start to the season. Soggy has lost her marbles and considering the loss teresa and to a lesser extent Melissa have gone tgomrough...Siggy might have backed off a bit.

Just finished watching the pilot... not horrible, but not good either. I do like that Claudia looks more like a hot mess then the more subdued/elegant version of season 1/2 of Claudia in the original version. I wish that each scene was longer then a minute each,but I do like the mentions of Alexis.. plus Fallon vs Blake in business (story ideas from the 1st season of the original show). Cristal seems more like a bitch then a good guy.. so I'm curious to see what Alexis will be like when she does show up.

They definitely need Claudia on the show, that's for sure. Like her or hate her, she was an important element to the original show.. the outsider..moreso then Krystle ever was.

I truly believe that Bledsoe Horgan didn't get enough credit for cleaning up the show in late 1984 through most of 1985. If anything, she laid the foundation so that Marland could get to work on crafting his stories. I actually think the Marie saga was going on during this time as well... the only change Marland did to the story was creating the Douglas Cummings character as well as having Kim getting stalked by him. The Brian/Barbara/Shannon triangle was in full swing by the time Marland came on.. and all he did was add Duncan. Lily/Dusty were the young angst couple..and Marland added Holden to cause complications. And I do believe marisa Tomei quit the show as her contract was up.. and if I think Marland scripted Marcy and Stuart's wedding before they left the show.

I actually didn't know jersey premiered lol Judging by what I saw, I'm going to assume Siggy will get the villianess edit. It seems like the new girl, Melissa, and Danielle will have issues with her.

When my late mom was alive, she said her fav Margo was Margaret Colin...but by the time I was old enough, I witness HBS last year or so as Margo. Timing is everything cause when Ellen Dolan announced she as leaving the show, it was right after HBS signed as Nora...mo the after saying she would have been open to going back as Margo. With that said, how do you think Margo would have differed if HBS had resumed playing Margo again after Ellen Dolan left the role? Both of the actresses had different takes on the character...HBS was more sarcastic...while Ellen Dolan was sarcastic, but with a harsher undertone then either Margaret C or HBS (a far cry from her Maureen Reardon where she was perkier then her replacement). Also, I'm going to be unpopular...but I liked Heather R's take on Lily better then Martha's, but I will say I liked that Martha played Lily differently when she first came back to the role (more like heathers version then her original version). But I have to say I liked Noelle's take of Lily in the last few years of the show. After all, she did play the Lily Walsh version on Loving....and we got an answer as to how he would have written Trisha long term when he wrote for Lily Walsh.

The sets were so big and orange. So 80s That exchange between kristen/s tephanie highlights how insecure stephanie was. She was even jealous of her own daughter getting any attention from Eric. I don't recall...was that also the reason why she and Felicia didn't get along?

Kenya made season 5 of RHOA crackle and pop. Her twirl and gone with the wind fabulous was memorable. The only time Kim fields was interesting was when she and Kenya faced off.

To me, Jack was Erica's fall back..never truly her true love. I would say Erica was his but never hers. I recall during the Libosone arc that both of them dran it...he confessed he was still in love with her and Erica let him know that she cared for him but wasn't in love with him. Adam and Erica were more like a partnership then a romance so of course he never tried to change her. He liked the challenge she presented and he never got bored because he could never control her. I love watching some of the 1989 episodes especially the ones that Depriest were headwriter of. Some of her ideas were odd, but the show had more of a community feel then when broderick/miller were headwriting. She started erica/Jack, tad/Dixie, and it's interesting she was the one to create Trevor while Natalie was trying to move on from Jeremy..who was with Skye! I don't recall that relationship...so I'm guessing when Nixon came back she ended it because Jeremy and his son were going for Ceara by end of 1990.

Let's see how jersey fares this upcoming season before we determine if they need a shake up. NY might need to make an adjustment in the cast. I truly think if brthenny were cut, we coukd actually see more about the other women especially Ramona and Luann. I wish there were more Ramona dating disaster stories but sadly Bethenny is a leech when it comes to airtime. I'm intrigued to see how BH will turn out..with Eileen gone..hoe will Rinna function? Her spokesperson will be gone, so how will she fare? Plus, more scenes of her daughter's making fun of Donna would be nice. That's the one element I loved about early OC...the housewives teen children had talking heads regarding how crazy their mom's were. We saw brief ones of Shannon and Peggy' s daughters making fun of their moms...its a nice added bonus..imho.

Peggy needs to tell them it was a preventive surgery so she doesn't get cancer then change subject. I loved Lydia getting iced out of the dinner. This girl has said she doesn't like Shannon, nor does she like the drama and baggage Shannon brings...so of course, Shannon opts to not invite her and Lydia is surprised/hurt lol. She and Heather Dubrow are more alike then not.

To me, I don't like that most of the original cast (Jesse, Joey, Danny, becky,etc) are back so much. One episode per season would be nice.. But more then that and I forget this is Fuller House and not Full House.

But I wouldn't exactly call that show a quality shoe. It had a mean spiritedness to it but maybe that's what constitutes as funny nowadays. Since Harris is coming from Chicago to Lanford, I'm wondering why unless she had to quit college because one or both of her parents were laid off.

Whitney Cummings is a producer? Gosh, I guess the mea spirited tone the original took in later years will be in tact.

Shana was kind of like Cecile when she first came on...then fell in love and left town...only coming back once she lost her spouse and child...so she was tortured for awhile then she ran AE with Jack for awhile...then decided she wanted to be a mom...and fell in love with the father of the baby. Her character had a lot of shades and different phases she went though. The late 1991 episodes were written by the Mary Ryan M writer...but it didn't have an identity during this late 1991 period. I do think she was trying to reestablish the haves and havenots with the aldens and Rescotts...with Dinah Lee as the spoiler. It wasn't bad whatsoever...but it's non descript. She had three brief stints as headwriter..and she wasn't bad but w asnt good either. Some people are just not cut out to he headwriter..and I guess Mary Ryan M was one. It's a shame nowadays hacks like Higley, pratt,etc are given 1 or more years as headwriters when ok headwriters like Mary Ryan M get a few months at most at the helm. I will say I liked that she invented Giff as a bridge between the haves and havenots...and thought he and Gwyn worked as a couple. I do think she set up some good dynamics and plots with Dinah Lee being a brief spoiler for trucker and trisha...and that allowed months of story once she left.

Do you think RHOA will become NeNe's RHOA? I would have kept Where's as a friend of....it worked well for her because my fab thing about her is her talking head interviews..but she doesn't have much to bring to the table in terms of her day to day life. Porsha needs to go away. Why is she allowed to come back? RHONY...bethenny was great her first season back because I wondered how she would take to the new girls. She and carole clicked, she ignored Kristen, and ended up respecting Heather. Sadly, her return made the show think Heather was redundant...but I still think Heather could have worked with Bethenny back. They're not all that alike..tbh. RHOC...lydia gives Christians a bad name. While Shannon should do herself a favor and quit the show (compare her demeanor in early season 9 to now), Lydia has the same tendencies as Heather Dubrow...and not her good qualities either.

Flynn lasted a good year or so...very tragic ending and caused a lot of angst for Carly...and then another change in regime happened and she was gone.

For peeps who watched the show back in the day, which Betsy was their favorite?

RHOC Shannon..best revenge is ignoring and moving on. If the triad of Shannon, tamra and Vicki return in season 13.. T amra will so ice out Shannon because she's like that...but this would be the one time is give Tamra a pass since Shannon is a small dose type of person. Rhoa: Sheree is a blonde in that promo pic?? I wish Atlanta would shuffle the cast...but they've been so many duds I can see why Nene was bought back...but is Porsha needed? Nope, she's redundant.

I recall in 1994, a vast majority of GL people got nominated...but as the quality of the show dwindled...so did the nominations. I truly think the clone story killed a lot of respect for the show. From what I recall, when KZ submitted the clone episodes for a nomination...the panel laughed. I think the Reba focus in the late 90s and thereafter helped kill the show. And i hated the final scene of the show was Josh and Reva. An insult to.the show.

I'm sure if there is anything between Doritt and LVP..it probably won't explode till the actual season starts...cause u know that talking heads will reveal their true feelings.