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The shows are happy to repeat themselves - we may as well do the same. I do think they had, or have, some decent chemistry - I wish they didn't often so seem like he's just her purse-holder these days.

I do wonder what the last romance on the show was that was well done or well-received by viewers. Trina/Spencer was clearly disliked by TPTB, and not intended on their part, so I'm putting that aside.

I could almost believe Carly respecting her as Carly got older, lost a child, regretted some of her choices as a mother, and then I know in the late '90s the show kept comparing Carly to Monica, but Sonny...nah.

I've seen some criticisms of Lucy being given scenes with Tracy about Monica instead of Gio, Cody or Stella being in those scenes. I wish they'd been included (well, maybe not Gio as I don't care that much about his Q ties anymore), but whatever the reason, I thought the pairing was interesting. More than anything done with Lucy in some time. They've never been close, and that worked well here. On paper, Tracy weeping on the stairs would have been too much for me, but Jane underplayed that whole scene beautifully.

She did, yes. Harley and Philip, but she was thrown into that role with several other relationships in Beth's whole last stint on the show.

That seems most likely. Probably Sinclair propaganda. Within our lifetimes all of network TV may just be propaganda from affiliates, sports, "reality," and repeats from streamers.

Unlikely as it may be, I'd actually prefer having her back once Freddie is gone, as I don't really need to see another female character reliving rape trauma, and Freddie is a waste of space. If there's any way they could Elaine Lordan back, even just for a scene, what a great way to celebrate 25 years. I haven't kept up with the show much the last few weeks - I haven't felt up to it to be honest - but I'm not too surprised Zoe's return has gotten mixed responses. Even with the writing issues at present, Zoe was mostly just a brat who was bookended by some powerful stories. I've also seen people saying the Slaters are too judgmental of her - given that some of them, Jean especially, are among the biggest hypocrites ever in soapland, I'm not shocked.

Sorry, I meant how they were treated in the '80s.

Probably because she was mostly there to cause problems for other character rather than be a character in her own right.

The treatment of Emily, as well as Lee and Audrey and Steve, was not right. It always stands out more with Emily as she never got a second act. I hang on to John Beradino's short tribute to Emily after she died. It really wasn't enough, but the way Beradino says, "so long, Jessie" has more emotional impact than some Viking funerals on soaps. I think if the show were in a strong place then it could be some good drama for Felicia, Lucas, Maxie, etc. to have someone coming back who might be a Tony doppelganger, and they could tie that to Sidwell and his son if that story is still going to go on. I do know it would probably end with Sonny gunning him down while shouting at random times.

So much has changed since then it's probably just a readjustment for you, the show, everyone. Maybe they will try to get Donna Mills to do a cameo.

Tom, I believe. I think that the nutso story would have been more interesting for Amanda if it had contrasted with Carrie - maybe if they had met in the facility and that was Carrie's intro to Springfield, and we saw a codependent relationship between them.

You're right, although IIRC there may have been real life issues as to why Logan was killed off. It's a shame Scott is gone and they made such an awful mess with Jagger, as a Karen revival makes a lot of sense. I'd like to see Tony back in some capacity - he had ties to the Cassadines so it could work. When you break down the story the way you have, then along with the Obrecht reunion tour, I almost wonder if Ron is secretly involved with the show again.

You're right. IIRC, Margo had a miscarriage when Tom was aggressively cross-examining her (he did not know she was pregnant), although they may have worked around that somehow. I think GL made a mistake putting Amanda through so much trauma in such a short period.

Thanks @Faulkner that's sweet. Erika looks a lot like my grandmother there. Brings back some nice memories. @Maxim Thanks for the clip. Horrid behavior, but Phil Carey is having the time of his life. I agree with you that Malone never really does that well with humor. I had never thought of it before but you're right - Ellen Bethea's Rachel is a young Viki in some ways. Nora is quite a character.

Thanks for replying. I think the one episode where he gets a lead is Curtis Unglued. It's a shame it never worked out for him in sitcoms - I know he was on two or three, but as you said, many sitcoms are not well-made.

As someone who mostly just complains about how terrible Block was on ATWT, I agree with you about his charisma on GL. I had forgotten Jesse's father was recast. Taye Diggs was cast for How Stella Got Her Groove Back around the time he was cast on GL, IIRC, so whatever plans they may have had for him were cut even shorter.

Oh it's wonderful. I was about to reply to @alwaysAMC about it in another thread. That drum intro and the "THINK ABOUT IT!" never leave your head.

Thanks @slick jones Mark Margolis will always be Nappa from Oz for me. I did not know he ever had a bit part in an adult movie. Also never knew the guy who played Leora Sanders' abusive husband on AMC popped up later the same decade on there in a small role.

I was going through a few old files from videos that were once on Youtube but aren't anymore - some had old soap promos I couldn't find elsewhere on Youtube. If this is new to you, I hope the Sonny/Brenda fans enjoy it as it must be one of their first promos.

Was it the fight about six minutes into this? That description does seem to fit what is available of the late '70s - trying to modernize after some dreary years. The show then becomes very dowdy again under Marland before being modernized under Kobe, too much, to the point of being a husk. The Dobsons are the ones who seemed to truly get the balance right. I wish I could see some of Deerfield's Holly.