All My Shadows

Quoting you so that you get a notification bc I feel like you would know this. I’m reading that the actor who played Ivan Cheveski dated Tony Warren until Tony found him in bed with a co-star. Who’s the co-star?! If it’s who I think it is, I approve.

Wow, I have some catching up to do with this thread! Re: Queen for a Day. Years ago, one of the specialty digital cable networks aired some of the surviving 50s episodes, and that's my only experience watching it. Never thought we'd ever see the 1969 revival, though. Just from watching the first few minutes, I can tell the format was already severely outdated, and the host doesn't have nearly as much charm as you need in order to make it work. ALWAYS good to see more High Rollers!! I never put two and two together in my head to realize that audiences were getting a full hour of Bill Cullen while he subbed for Allen on P+ alongside hosting Chain Reaction.

It was just ABC (besides B&B), and it was just for a 2-4 years. Port Charles started it in 2000, then AMC’s new 2002 opening (with the return to the early 90s theme song) included the character names being scrawled across their headshots in the photo album. OLTL and GH added names to the openings they had already been using for years, but it just seemed unnecessary. All three ditched it when they went to the awful ABC-branded mess in spring/summer 2004. Port Charles had already been cancelled. AMC did it again for the 2013 continuation.

He was letter-perfect as the Gimble brothers on Mary Hartman, and of course, a familiar face to those of us who grew up on Roseanne and Sabrina. A great loss.

Ohhhh, you mean this. I wonder if these non-fans who get stuff like this in their hands and just sit on it realize how extremely rare it is.

Are you talking about the one that has the very last few seconds of a Kim/Jennifer scene, featuring Kim’s big hair? I think it was originally labeled 1974 then showed up again as 1975. I want to say that the Bob/John promo came from the same source, but I could be wrong. I would have never expected that handful of episodes from Patricia Bruder, so I know there has to be even more out there. Eileen *has* to have some of Lisa’s late 60s glory days. Similarly, that 1958 episode surfacing is interesting to me because a small clip from the courtroom scene (Chris having to publicly discuss his daughter Penny’s moral character in his line of questioning) was in the old 50 Years of Soaps special. In general, I strongly believe that if it something was clipped in a special or used in a flashback, it probably exists in full.

I’ve been watching a ton of 60s and 70s episodes lately, and ugh. The end of part one music was perfect every. single. time. I will never understand why they felt the need to change it after fifty years.

To me, the big mistake in putting her with Ryan is that Erica wasn't interested in no damn Pine Valley men anymore lol When was the last time Erica was truly with a man who'd already been on the canvas for an extended period of time? She was not there for picking up anyone else's leftovers - much less her damn daughter's - she was the one who dropped her scraps under the table for the other girls to eat. There was no mystery with Ryan. She knew him, and he knew her. If he was ever going to be attracted to her, it would have happened ten years earlier than it did. This is also why I think people tired of her with Jack. In the early days, yes, but after a while, what was it about him that kept her going back? I do think that he worked for her as the "Okay, I've had enough, it's time to settle down" option, but it's been well-discussed here over the years that Erica truly settling down wouldn't include a man.

Any of y'all ever watch the pilot for Karen Valentine's post-Room 222 vehicle, The Karen Valentine Program? It was definitely an MTM derivative that didn't have enough of its own character to stand on its own, but I remember liking it when it was on YouTube maybe ten years ago. All that's available now are the opening/closing credits. It's annoying to me that it says "starring," Karen walks into the shot, and then nothing, but Mary was technically never credited on her show, either.

Erica Kane summed up her type quite well in the early episodes of AMC: "When I'm set on a man, he's going to have success written all over him before our marriage even starts. And when he makes it, I'm going to be just what he bargained for." Her guy is the dashing romantic, somewhat cosmopolitan, often fiery and fed up with her sht but ready to dance that dance. She thought she wanted Jeff, Phil, and Tom, but she was always drawn to the Jason Maxwells, Nick Davises, Brandon Kingsleys, etc. Once the 80s hit and she met Adam and Mike, it was game over for the simple PV guys. And we all know this is a reflection of her daddy issues.

This is great, I don't think I've ever seen a LITA ad that features so many characters. Early tarty Brooke is always fun to see, especially when paired up with early Mark. Good times, good times.

Thanks for sharing that! I don't think I'd ever seen the first ceremony before. Jean Alexander was a treat, I had no clue she ever made an appearance on any of these. And yes, the room full of respect for her (and for Roache) gives you goosebumps. Barbara Windsor and Kelvin Fletcher's clips are the most impressive. It's funny because I haven't taken the Daytime Emmys seriously at allllll since we got down to four soaps, but the BSAs have always been the Corrie/EE/Emmerdale/Oaks show, and it's never felt hollow or like a waste of time. I guess because the UK didn't have a pool of 10+ shows shrink down to a pitiful 4.

That theme song is the only thing from Supertrain that had any staying power. Cobert knew what he had and reused many of its elements for the NBC game show Chain Reaction less than a year later. That version only ran a few months, but it was revived on the USA Network from 1986 to 1991 - still using the Cobert theme.

White Lotus - I mostly liked the first season, but it's so hard to like any of the characters in the second season at all that I quit after four episodes.

And now there are obnoxious and misplaced ads for (of all things) 4imprint.com!! Right in the middle of scenes, in the middle of the closing credits, etc. I'd go back to paying if it meant cutting the ads back out.

I honestly thought we would see Sue Nicholls retire and Audrey leave before this, but yes, Helen Worth has been a trooper for decades and has earned her retirement. It's still quite sad to see another link to the show's past go.

The copy I’ve seen must be a reproduction that changed Terry to Tara. It didn’t make sense to me that Tara would be a nickname for Teresa.

This is correct. From what I gather, Nick was meant to be a much more villainous figure who never shows up in PV. Phil goes to work at his bar in New York and is finally driven to a moment of temporary anger in which he beats Nick to death. Of course, Nick goes on to become one of the defining faces of the show in the 70s, so I bet the change in story for both he and Carol/Amy was due to Rosemary agreeing to play Amy but for only six months. The whole story of Phil's paternity would have felt like a waste of time if both of his real parents were gone within the first year.

I think I've asked this before, so please forgive me - is there absolutely NO way at all for the It's Real Good TV app to just pick up where you left off? I'm in the middle of 1968 with hopes to finish the year and be into 1969 by the end of summer, but my god, is it annoying to have to scroll so deep into the middle of a year. It's definitely an incentive to binge many episodes in a row.

Oh, I should’ve clarified that info came from a 1979 script I came across online years ago. I want to say it was summer 1979, when Palmer first appeared (and Nina soon followed). I recall Phoebe asking about his daughter Lily.

From the bible: "...Joe returned with his elder son, John, age twenty, who is now away at pre-med himself, seventeen-year old Teresa, generally known as Tara, and twelve-year old Danny..." It also gives Joe's late father and Kate's late husband the name "John," but I believe he ended up being referred to as "Henry" on the show.

In the original pre-OLTL bible for AMC, the Martin family was the Craig family: Dr. Joe Craig, his son John, daughter Teresa (nicknamed Tara), and younger son Danny. The Brents - Ted, Ruth, and Phil - were originally the Martins, and Ruth’s sister Amy was originally Carol. Nina Cortlandt was first referred to as Lily.

I was about to say... I saw this thread (which I guess I missed back in February) pop up as I'm literally watching Freevee right now lol

Yikes, I definitely meant Theo! I wasn’t watching during the Whitney/Leo story, but yes, point proven two-fold.

Don't forget the nice with a history of sexual assault. I never cancelled my BritBox subscription (mainly because I want to watch all of Keeping Up Appearances and Are You Being Served? this summer lol), so I tuned in to Easties a few weeks ago, and it happened to be the ep where Yolande is raped. The whole story reminded me too much of Stacey/Leo. I can't see myself jumping back in, no matter how deeply and madly and stupidly in love I am with Jamie Borthwick and Thomas Law.