ABC | Disney+ | ESPN | Hulu

Discussion forum for ABC, Disney+, ESPN, FX and Hulu shows and originals. Additional content discussion includes programming on Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FXX and FXM, among other Disney-owned networks.

Followers

Show Me The Money: Discussion Thread
Show Me The Money: Discussion Thread

KMan101, November 15, 200619 yr
- 5 replies
- 2.3k views
WTGH

November 16, 200619 yr
Six Degrees: Discussion Thread
Six Degrees: Discussion Thread
Errol, May 21, 200620 yr
- 17 replies
- 4.2k views
Matt

October 21, 200619 yr
Help Me Help You: Discussion Thread
Help Me Help You: Discussion Thread

Toups, October 16, 200619 yr
- 0 replies
- 1.6k views
Toups

October 16, 200619 yr
Grey's : Rumble in the OR
Grey's : Rumble in the OR

Josh, October 12, 200619 yr
- 4 replies
- 2.3k views
DruRocks

October 12, 200619 yr

Followers

GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

Days literally was in the top 10 for most of it's run after the move to Peacock and fell off completely never to return after John's funeral, which is odd. Peacock is oddly diverse with all their Bravo shows and sports. I am not sure people watching Summerhouse or Love Island are crossing over to Days and I highly doubt people watching the World Cup are going watch Days tomorrow. Peacock also does 0 promotion for Days. I have seen approximately 700 commercials for the Summerhouse reunion (kinda boring, if anyone is curious), but have never seen a Days commercial.
Hulu has a bit more synergy for people who like soaps and is probably more bang for you buck in general. It's also more user friendly than Peacock, which is often the most annoying streamer to navigate. If you are only watching Peacock for Days and don't care about Bravo or niche sports it's not really worth it to pay monthly.
I am not sure any streamer could successfully launch a soap at this point, but Hulu/Disney probably have the best chance.

By carolineg · 6 minutes ago6 min
Another World Discussion Thread

Kevin was last seen at Sally's funeral on May 28, 1986, which is on YouTube. Catlin assures Kevin that he won't ever be alone and that he is the best thing Sally shared with him. And then a couple of weeks later he just lets Liz take the kid permanently forever without any attempt to stay in his life. Liz stayed away until Thanksgiving the following year and I don't believe she mentioned Kevin or Catlin or even Sally again.
Although as you mention June 10 is not on YouTube, I wound up watching a scene from June 12 that answered a question I had had about Michael's alleged history with Rachel when they were young. He stops by Mary's Place to see Ada and thank her for talking sense to Victoria, and she recognizes him as Rachel's high school friend Michael Garrison. When Rachel had run into Michael previously she had talked as if they were younger and mentioned the Mickey Mouse Club but Ada talks as if they were a little older and Michael mentions the Beatles.

By Xanthe · 14 minutes ago14 min
ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

Yes, the contamination of the soaps was born there.
Okay, but DS was CREATED and INTENDED to be a supernatural soap, set in a realm outside the rules of reality. It developed a rabid cult following, primarily among young people who reveled in the camp, but it was never a major ratings success, and interest in the series dwindled away after only a few years, when its outlandish material could not be sustained. That should have been a lesson/warning for the networks: novelty soaps were not destined to last.
TEON was predicated on mystery and crime stories, but it was well written, focused on multi-dimensional and intelligent characters, and never veered into the realm of total implausibility. As long as crime and murder existed, TEON was not a far-fetched, insipid joke.
There was David Gray and his mysterious powers and that stupid ring, Casey the alien, Luke suddenly turning psychic...one painfully idiotic plot after another. UGH!
Other shows, which went the low-brow, sci-fi route did not understand that GH had soared in the ratings BEFORE the fantasy crap began. It was the mature writing by worthy writers (Marland and Falken Smith) that drew us in. We cared about the characters and the relationships (Lesley/Rick/Alan/Monica, Scotty/Laura, etc). When the Ice Princess and degradation of the show began, we watched IN SPITE OF the stupid new plots, not BECAUSE OF them. Many other soaps didn't get the concept, and just offered us dumb stories without characters and relationships worth investing in. It turned out to be a disaster.
To me, the last time any soap really shone was the Riche/Labine era of GH, with the stories about BJ's heart and Stone's death. What beautiful, legendary material we were given.
Alas, it's all be downhill from there.

By vetsoapfan · 43 minutes ago43 min
ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

It's interesting that OLTL went more in the sci-fi direction with the Ivan Kipling brain chip story than AMC. Agnes must have wielded enough power to say 'No, not happening'. Around that time they did the Cobra story, where Brooke's mother was some sort of crime lord, but I think that's the closest they got.
RH got in the act with the Merit Kara,Egyptian treasure stuff.
Again at CBS Bill Bell was having none of that and the closest GL got was Quint and the hidden treasure. Search had the Operation Sunburst /Hong Kong QE2 stories and ATWT, Tom/Margo/Mr Big.
NBC had Days go the adventure/spy route and Stefano the super villian. Texas did the Hipotah story but AW stayed more grounded.
But overall there was a major shift to more fanciful stuff post Ice Princess.

By Paul Raven · 1 hour ago1 hr
ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

All My Children circa 1981 to 1984 was pretty strong with a good mix of character, heart, humor, gothic, and glamour. Erica Kane being anything else would never happen Based on the clips from the late 70s, it seemed almost stodgy and lacking in personality though the stories were great.
I think the mid 80s for most soaps is where the scale tipped totally over into escapism from reality to varying degrees for each soap opera. Although I'll be honest, as a child.. I loved late 80s Days and I distinctly remember Patch and Kayla's 1988 wedding as being beautiful and payoff for their tortured love story.

By Soaplovers · 1 hour ago1 hr
GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

HULU has also been around longer and has a larger subscription base. It will be interesting to see when the plan goes into full effect and Hulu is gone how GH will rank on Disney+. I believe that synergy is still planned to happen soon?
I would imagine the other streamers that show their top 10’s would include everything on their platforms, so maybe those soaps don’t get the same kind of online audience that GH does? I will be honest I have seen DAYS only a few times this year, and it was just not good at all, so once I was done with Peacock for the season (Traitors fan here), DAYS did not entice me to stay longer.

By titan1978 · 1 hour ago1 hr
ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

It could be argued that once they revealed the Ice Princess was a weather machine, the line in the sand was drawn. It’s not like supernatural stuff hadn’t existed before, Dark Shadows was there. And The Edge of Night was also there, a non traditional soap with a long history of murder and other crimes, trials, and some sensationalistic elements. But the Ice Princess was outlandish and it’s also kind of stupid, and following it up a year-ish later with the haunted sword was not good.
But before that the partnerships of Gloria Monty and Marland/PFS were still rooted in modernizing tradition, and their better writing and plotting made a stronger show. They were still telling character driven stories, even if Monty had upped the pace and style/settings.
The real problem for me was everyone trying to do their version. I think daytime as a whole would have been stronger if everybody had not tried to do what Monty was doing. As we have discussed in the classic thread before, she intimately knew the traditions of soap opera from her long tenures at other shows. She was a talented director and had good dramatic instincts, and was accomplishing something on GH that was kind of singular and probably should have remained that way.
I think the ultimate near fatal blows to the genre was increasing network driven story approvals and notes, with people in those positions that didn’t understand or value the genre. Riche and Labine pitched the HIV story directly to Pat Fili-Krushel and it was approved on the spot. She called Labine near the climax and asked does Robin have to be HIV positive, and Labine said if she isn’t then what’s the point? And Pat agreed, and added something along the lines of this is breaking my heart, which made Labine happy because it was supposed to move the audience. That was a network exec that didn’t come up under soaps but got it. Brian Frons did come from a history with soaps and was clearly ashamed of them.

By titan1978 · 1 hour ago1 hr
Daily Hotness

I still find him so cute

By AbcNbc247 · 2 hours ago2 hr
GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

Most of Peacock’s Top 10 list is of shows that are on network TV.
We were talking about it in the Days thread about how Days just suddenly disappeared from the list last year and questioning whether or not Peacock chooses not to include it.

By AbcNbc247 · 2 hours ago2 hr
B&B: June 2026 Discussion Thread

Casey's promotion also did something I think!

By Aback · 2 hours ago2 hr

ABC | Disney+ | ESPN | Hulu

254 topics in this forum

Show Me The Money: Discussion Thread

Six Degrees: Discussion Thread

Help Me Help You: Discussion Thread

Grey's : Rumble in the OR

Recent Posts

GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

Another World Discussion Thread

ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

ALL: Escapism vs any semblance of reality

Daily Hotness

GH: June 2026 Discussion Thread

B&B: June 2026 Discussion Thread

Important Information

Account

Navigation

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)

Chrome (Desktop)

Safari (iOS 16.4+)

Safari (macOS)

Edge (Android)

Edge (Desktop)

Firefox (Android)

Firefox (Desktop)