Jump to content


Welcome! Please take a second to register.


Photo

Legacy characters who were killed off...


  • Please log in to reply
53 replies to this topic

#1 Paul Raven

Paul Raven

    Veteran

  • Members
  • 3,965 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

Saw mention of this in the Y&R thread and thought it was worthy of a topic of it's own.

Who were the legacy characters who were needlessly killed off?

Were there some deaths that you thought were worthwhile in that they drove story and had long term repercussions?

I guess one of the original legacy characters to be killed off was Jo's son Duncan on Search for Tomorrow.Mary Stuart was not happy about it for a number of reasons,one being that she was pregnant with her own child as well as in the show and it seemed tasteless to do that.
Of course it meant that in later years,Jo didn't have another child involved that would keep her front and centre. So much so that in the 70's the writers gave her a surrogate son to serve that purpose.

Your thoughts on this topic??
  • 0

#2 quartermainefan

quartermainefan

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 6,241 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

GH where to start

 

Alan Quartermaine

AJ Quartermaine (since reversed)

Emily Quartermaine

Georgie Jones


  • 0

#3 SFK

SFK

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 17,945 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:51 AM

AMC's Stuart Chandler (mercifully reversed)


  • 0

#4 DRW50

DRW50

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 53,911 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

I think legacy character is a meaningless term these days, but I do hate the deaths of characters who could have been far more, and deaths for no apparent reason. For instance, Chucky Shea on ATWT. This seemed to have zero story purpose and robbed Lisa of more story potential beyond fretting over Tom.


  • 0

#5 DeeeDee

DeeeDee

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 14,311 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:12 AM

Y&R was pretty good about not killing off legacy children (besides Phillip & occasional miscarriages) prior to Jack Smith.

 

After that it was all downhill.

 

Scott Grainger

John Abbott III

Eve Howard

Cassie Newman

Colleen Carlton

Ricky Williams


Edited by DeeeDee, 14 January 2013 - 07:02 AM.

  • 0

#6 y&r_fan

y&r_fan

    Veteran

  • Members
  • 2,733 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:08 AM

B&B

Caroline Spencer
Macy Sharpe (twice)
Felicia Forrester (briefly)
Phoebe Forrester
Storm Logan
  • 0

#7 Ann_SS

Ann_SS

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 8,492 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

I am the one who brought it up on the Y&R thread. I am glad that you created a thread on it. It really irks me is when they kill off the younger legacy children who have so much story potential. The deaths that made me angry over the years were:

 

Bryant Montgomery, ATWT
Georgie Jones, GH

Ben Reade, GL

Colleen Carlton, Y&R

Phoebe Forrester, B&B

Emily Quartermaine, GH

Laura Cudahy, AMC

Ricky Williams, Y&R.

Cassie Newman, Y&R

 

Laura and Cassie are the only legacy children whose deaths that I have felt actually served their shows well in the long run. All the rest were a waste and the shows were the poorer for losing them. Everyone of these younger characters could have just been shipped off to college or sent to visit relatives instead of being senselessly killed off. Even now, I would accept a wacky reboot where an impersonator or clone was killed so these characters can be brought back.


Edited by Ann_SS, 14 January 2013 - 12:37 PM.

  • 0

#8 Paul Raven

Paul Raven

    Veteran

  • Members
  • 3,965 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:39 AM

What about DJ Craig on Days? It did highlight the tragedy of cot death and give Deidre Hall and Jed Allan dynamic scenes to play as well as lead toward their break up.But it did allow the writers to drop Don as he had no family links to Salem.

Baby John on AMC? Palmer and Donna's baby.With a bit of SORAS he could have been a major character in the 90's.
  • 0

#9 SoapSurvivor

SoapSurvivor

    Recurring

  • Members
  • 150 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:47 AM

Drew Buchanan - One Life to Live
Tony Lord - One Life to Live

Meredith Lord - One Life to Live
Megan Gordon - One LIfe to Live (The worst in my opinion, she hasn't done anything noteworthy since and could have been OLTL's next leading lady)

 

Zach Brady - Days of Our Lives


  • 0

#10 zanereed

zanereed

    Dayplayer

  • Members
  • 94 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

Guiding Light - Bill Bauer (as nothing more than to prop up the Eli Sims/Annie Sims/Annabelle Sims storyline)

 

Guiding Light - Hillary Bauer (as nothing more than to prop up the Brandon Spaulding/Victoria storyline)

 

Guiding Light - Maureen Bauer (as nothing more than to prop up JFP)


  • 0

#11 SoapDope

SoapDope

    Recurring

  • Members
  • 356 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

I thought it was weird that Y&R killed off Jennifer Brooks.

 

Killing off Liz Foster was for the sake of Hasselhoff was beyond stupid.

 

Killing off Colleen and John Abbott was stupid.

 

Killing off Brad Carlton was stupid

 

 

In recent years Y&R has killed off most of the Abbotts. I fear that Tracy and Dina are next.


  • 0

#12 EricMontreal22

EricMontreal22

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 16,593 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Drew Buchanan - One Life to Live
Tony Lord - One Life to Live

Meredith Lord - One Life to Live
Megan Gordon - One LIfe to Live (The worst in my opinion, she hasn't done anything noteworthy since and could have been OLTL's next leading lady)

 

Zach Brady - Days of Our Lives

It was mentioned in an interview that they thought a lot about Megan, but felt that the role was un-recastable, and Tuck madeit pretty clear she would never return full time...


  • 0

#13 ajsp35801

ajsp35801

    Veteran

  • Members
  • 2,342 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 12:29 PM

I am the one who brought it up on the Y&R thread. I am glad that you created a thread on it. It really irks me is when they kill off the younger legacy children who have so much story potential. The deaths that made me angry over the years were:

 

Bryant Montgomery, ATWT
Georgie Jones, GH

Ben Reade, GL

Colleen Carlton, Y&R

Phoebe Forrester, B&B

Emily Quartermaine, GH

Laura Cudahy, AMC

Ricky Williams, Y&R.

Cassie Newman, Y&R

 

Laura and Cassie are the only legacy children whose death that I have never felt actually served their shows well in the long run. All the rest were a waste and the shows were the poorer for losing them. Everyone of these younger characters could have just been shipped off to college or sent to visit relatives instead of being senselessly killed off. Even now, I would accept a wacky reboot where an impersonator or clone was killed so these characters can be brought back.

 

Great post. Cassie's death definitely drove story for a long time and was used as motivations for lots of things...It was actually a great umbrella story. All the others were a complete waste of a character. Especially Rickey Williams and Pheobe Forrester. No one even mentions Pheobe now and nothing really happened besides the story arc directly related to it. There were no lasting repercussions.  I am sure Rickey will be the same on Y&R as Colleen is. They may mention her from time to time but nothing happened other than Victor getting her heart and his 1,000th redemption SL. If he had changed for the better after that and became a completely different man then I would say that killing her off was worth it because it changed the entire landscape of the show. But that didn't happen. A waste.


  • 0

#14 edgeofnik

edgeofnik

    Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,563 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

I was quite upset with killing Cassie (Y&R), but that act fueled story for years and continues to be a touchpoint for the show. In that respect, this was a death done for all the right reasons. Too many soap deaths are done for a quick 'shock and awe.' I hate the deaths of Bryant and Rose on ATWT. Y&R killing Colleen and Brad was beyond awful (though it did free DD to create an even better character on B&cool.png. John A. was just dumb beyond words. On the other hand, bringing back PIII was the worst thing the show could've done.

Didn't DAYS kill one of Hope's children? I seem to remember how everyone was so excited because KA was going to hit it out of the park and I was the lone voice who stated that it was going to be a totally meaningless story. (Plus, DAYS was just coming off of the Island nonsense, so death's on that show have no emotional impact for me. Yeah, still not over that mess.)

My attitude with legacy characters is that unless the actor who defined the role dies, if the writers don't know what to do with them, send them away. Characters with rich, on-screen history can always come back if needed.
  • 0

#15 EricMontreal22

EricMontreal22

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 16,593 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

I will sound heartless, but Laura Cudahy's death seemed worth it for the story it told (and some great acting)...  She wasn't an established character anyway even if she was technically legacy.


  • 0

#16 SoapSurvivor

SoapSurvivor

    Recurring

  • Members
  • 150 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

It was mentioned in an interview that they thought a lot about Megan, but felt that the role was un-recastable, and Tuck madeit pretty clear she would never return full time...

 

Yea she could have just left town then and came back for visits like David Vickers, but I guess soaps really wasn't doing that then.  But if they could recast Dorian and Tina successfully, they could have done the same with Megan.  But now that I think about OLTL didn't do too much re-casting of important characters.


  • 0

#17 Scotty

Scotty

    ...because we only have 'One Life to Live'

  • Administrator
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,636 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:26 PM

Drew Buchanan - One Life to Live
Tony Lord - One Life to Live

Meredith Lord - One Life to Live
Megan Gordon - One LIfe to Live (The worst in my opinion, she hasn't done anything noteworthy since and could have been OLTL's next leading lady)

 

Zach Brady - Days of Our Lives

 

Also from OLTL....

 

Victor Lord (I'm not counting that 2003 debacle)

Asa Buchanan


  • 0

#18 Nothin'ButAttitude

Nothin'ButAttitude

    Through this journey of discovery....

  • Members
  • 3,353 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

Even though this character was a bit before my time, I'd say Sally Frame (AW). Why the adoptive daughter of Steve and Alice was killed boggles my mind. IMO, she should've been a character on the show for the long haul, driving story alongside Vicky in the later years.

 

Coop on GL. A great re-introduction for Phillip; however, I thought it was stupid. Coop should've left town instead of trying to stop sleazy Beth from marrying Alan.


  • 0

#19 Ann_SS

Ann_SS

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 8,492 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

I will sound heartless, but Laura Cudahy's death seemed worth it for the story it told (and some great acting)...  She wasn't an established character anyway even if she was technically legacy.

Oh, I definitely agree. Laura's death was crushing, but the resulting story and long term impact on Brooke and Tom was worth it.

 

 

I was quite upset with killing Cassie (Y&R), but that act fueled story for years and continues to be a touchpoint for the show. In that respect, this was a death done for all the right reasons. Too many soap deaths are done for a quick 'shock and awe.' I hate the deaths of Bryant and Rose on ATWT. Y&R killing Colleen and Brad was beyond awful (though it did free DD to create an even better character on B&cool.png.

 

I will never forget sobbing when Cassie died, but like you said it was done for the right reason and to this day it is the most important Newman death. Sharon and Nick have never been the same.

 

Bryant's death, to this day, makes me furious. I loved Hogan's tenure at ATWT, but Bryant's death is indefensible. To so casually kill off Craig and Sierra's son, Lucinda's grandson...

 

I have long decided to ignore Colleen and Brad's deaths because they were so stupid for words. As far as I am concerned, Colleen is married to J.T. have a bunch of kids and are living in NY near Traci, while Brad is running a corporation in Europe.


  • 0

#20 SFK

SFK

    Lifetimer

  • Members
  • 17,945 posts

Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

I will sound heartless, but Laura Cudahy's death seemed worth it for the story it told (and some great acting)...  She wasn't an established character anyway even if she was technically legacy.

 

This touches upon something I was going to bring up.  I think there's a difference between a. "shocking!" stunts that feel cheap and ultimately have little to no dramatic payoff, and b. the sad reality that sometimes death takes the unexpected.  Would I have loved for Laura to see adulthood?  Well of course, as I would for any child, real or fictional.  But children are tragically taken from us at times and AMC dramatized this beautifully.


  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users