1 minute ago, Vee said:

What exactly happened? I thought DAYS was as gay friendly as it gets on daytime these days, though BTG is starting to distinguish itself with frontburner story for two different core LGBT characters.

IIRC, they did not kiss. I think Colton Little suggested they couldn't say much about it, although maybe that was another actor. 

31 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

IIRC, they did not kiss. 

Oh that's ridiculous if so. DAYS has done plenty of gay intimacy in the past.

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

IIRC, they did not kiss. I think Colton Little suggested they couldn't say much about it, although maybe that was another actor. 

 

5 hours ago, Vee said:

Oh that's ridiculous if so. DAYS has done plenty of gay intimacy in the past.

When Colton was on Dishin Days, he had his copy of the script with him and there originally was a kiss between Paul and Andrew but it got cut.

He said there was a reason why, but due to “the parties involved” he didn’t say what it was. But he did say that it had nothing to do with the current political climate. 

7 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

-- I do wish DAYS 2025 would capitalize on its streaming status. All we get are different run times. Even without a budget, why can't the show be more "adult"? Even a little? Both content and language could use a mature upgrade. I thought we'd see it with the move to streaming, but it has not happened.

They tried a little in 2023 but then that all suddenly stopped 

10 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

They tried a little in 2023 but then that all suddenly stopped 

I hear you on that, but it's also clear that it "suddenly stopped" because of BTS pressures, NOT audience reaction.

44 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I hear you on that, but it's also clear that it "suddenly stopped" because of BTS pressures, NOT audience reaction.

To me, the real missed opportunity is how little DAYS seems to be using the data they could be mining from Peacock.

Who’s the current audience in terms of demos? When do viewers rewind most during an episode? Are people binging the show or watching daily? Which episodes are getting rewatched?

Fan emails are fine, but they pale in comparison to the kind of viewer data Peacock could provide. Emails only reflect the most motivated fans—the ones willing to write in. But passive viewership data tells a much fuller story about how the audience is actually engaging with the show.

That said, nothing on-screen suggests they’re using that data to adjust course. And honestly, because the show tapes so far in advance, they probably can’t.

It all still feels very "early streaming." Peacock seems to apply the same data approach to DAYS as they do to their weekly or binge-release shows. But streaming a show daily is completely different—and likely produces a unique footprint of what viewers watch before and after each episode. The DAYS viewer is a distinct type of consumer, but so far, I don’t see the algorithm or the platform’s programming strategy reflecting that.

Note: I tried to make sure all signs of my poor mood are stricken from the record, and I am trying to add to the conversation, rather than divert - thanks for putting up with me.

 

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I will always truly madly deeply be here for Carrie visits.

 

22 minutes ago, j swift said:

To me, the real missed opportunity is how little DAYS seems to be using the data they could be mining from Peacock.

Who’s the current audience in terms of demos? When do viewers rewind most during an episode? Are people binging the show or watching daily? Which episodes are getting rewatched?

A fascinating way of seeing it. I would be curious to know as well. 

I don't care to see the actual data.  I just want to know if this platform knows me as a user, I’d like to see that knowledge reflected in the product I’m being offered.

That’s not niche or unreasonable—it’s the entire premise of modern streaming. It’s how Spotify curates playlists. It’s how Netflix tailors thumbnails. It’s how Hulu recommends next episodes. And Peacock, which has the rare opportunity to collect daily serialized behavior from viewers, is sitting on a goldmine but seems to be programming like it’s 2006. That’s the issue.

I understand that, historically, soaps were geared toward advertiser-friendly demographics, but streaming has changed the equation. Days is now a daily show that consistently lands in Peacock’s top 10, yet it still doesn’t seem to reflect the values or interests of its newer, streaming-based audience.

Peacock’s revenue model is no longer primarily ad-driven. In fact, they charge a premium to avoid ads entirely. So the game isn’t about selling dish soap anymore—it’s about retaining me as a paying subscriber. That’s the product now: loyalty, not detergent.

Given that Peacock knows exactly what I watch, both before and after an episode, I find it surprising—if not a little insulting—that the platform seems to assume I don’t want to see two men kiss. That’s not just outdated thinking; it’s a missed opportunity in a business built on personalization.

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1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

I hear you on that, but it's also clear that it "suddenly stopped" because of BTS pressures, NOT audience reaction.

And yet we were able to watch Wolf of Wall Street on Peacock 😂😂

I really wonder which one was putting the pressure on.

9 minutes ago, j swift said:

And Peacock, which has the rare opportunity to collect daily serialized behavior from viewers, is sitting on a goldmine but seems to be programming like it’s 2006. That’s the issue.

Fully agree. Thanks for your input on this. You explained it all much better than I could.

I don't really think Peacock cares about Andrew/Paul kissing.  They've had several love scenes on Peacock and on Beyond Salem.  Colton said it was a personal issue.  For all we know it was someone being sick.  It was odd but Peacock has allowed threesomes without a blink of the eye.

I know money is money, but I personally don't need Peacock to give me data or rely on it to find my next show to watch.  If I can find Days and pay 3.99 a month, I am good.  I am not expecting it to be this amazing, life changing stream.  But everyone's MMV on that.

1 hour ago, j swift said:

I don't care to see the actual data.  I just want to know if this platform knows me as a user, I’d like to see that knowledge reflected in the product I’m being offered.

That’s not niche or unreasonable—it’s the entire premise of modern streaming. It’s how Spotify curates playlists. It’s how Netflix tailors thumbnails. It’s how Hulu recommends next episodes. And Peacock, which has the rare opportunity to collect daily serialized behavior from viewers, is sitting on a goldmine but seems to be programming like it’s 2006. That’s the issue.

I understand that, historically, soaps were geared toward advertiser-friendly demographics, but streaming has changed the equation. Days is now a daily show that consistently lands in Peacock’s top 10, yet it still doesn’t seem to reflect the values or interests of its newer, streaming-based audience.

Peacock’s revenue model is no longer primarily ad-driven. In fact, they charge a premium to avoid ads entirely. So the game isn’t about selling dish soap anymore—it’s about retaining me as a paying subscriber. That’s the product now: loyalty, not detergent.

Given that Peacock knows exactly what I watch, both before and after an episode, I find it surprising—if not a little insulting—that the platform seems to assume I don’t want to see two men kiss. That’s not just outdated thinking; it’s a missed opportunity in a business built on personalization.

Like Ranger, I love how you worded this as well. It is something that has actually been on my mind watching my Hulu system as of late because I find it odd sometimes that it just KNOWS if it makes sense. So I can see exactly what you mean. 

Thanks, I used guys kissing as a metaphor, but if Hulu knows that I'm not going to watch football, and Spotify knows I don't like Ethel Merman, Peacock should feed me a few more shirtless dudes on DAYS.  We pay for personalization, the content pays for itself. 😉

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17 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Like Ranger, I love how you worded this as well. It is something that has actually been on my mind watching my Hulu system as of late because I find it odd sometimes that it just KNOWS if it makes sense. So I can see exactly what you mean. 

LOL!  I think I just became a boomer in this moment and I am not even old enough.  If it shows up on my TV, I am good.  I remember the days I had to walk through 12 feet of snow to plug my computer into dial up to the discussion boards and actually had to read Soap Opera Digest for spoilers. 😂

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

LOL!  I think I just became a boomer in this moment and I am not even old enough.  If it shows up on my TV, I am good.  I remember the days I had to walk through 12 feet of snow to plug my computer into dial up to the discussion boards and actually had to read Soap Opera Digest for spoilers. 😂

A 12-foot cord, sound luxurious.🔌

And, I am always nostalgic for when Tuesdays meant the new Digest, SON, and bag of red jelly beans.  But, I'm also grateful that the change from monoculture allows the consumer to have the expectation that content should meet their needs for entertainment.