I randomly got obsessed with a show on BET+ called The Family Business and Lo and behold TMG pops up in season 2, made my damn night.

Ben Gavin (Derek) and Alex Cheeks (Donnell) 

44 minutes ago, MontyB said:

Ben Gavin (Derek) and Alex Cheeks (Donnell) 

Oh how cool! Where is this from? 

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8 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Oh how cool! Where is this from? 

From a movie called Christmas Camp. Made in 2018.

On 10/4/2025 at 6:28 AM, Antoyne said:

The fact that someone got paid to design the Hamilton living room and they literally air it regularly is a crime.

I thought it was aired to show off how much bad taste Hayley has, though. 

 

On 10/4/2025 at 12:23 PM, kalbir said:

 

 

 

 

I was not expecting the defense of Joshua Morrow but I'm sticking to my guns.

Alex Alegria is BtG's Ronn Moss. Ben Gavin is BtG's Joshua Morrow.

I don't see how. I mentioned Joshua Morrow's bubble butt often. So you can just 😜 

 

I do agree about AA to Ronn Moss though like I said before RM at least tried and had charisma to back up that good and bad acting. Cue the 'it ain't going to happen, Rick!' clip in 3....2...1...

20 minutes ago, MontyB said:

From a movie called Christmas Camp. Made in 2018.

Awesome! Thanks   

42 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I thought it was aired to show off how much bad taste Hayley has, though. 

 

I don't see how. I mentioned Joshua Morrow's bubble butt often. So you can just 😜 

 

I do agree about AA to Ronn Moss though like I said before RM at least tried and had charisma to back up that good and bad acting. Cue the 'it ain't going to happen, Rick!' clip in 3....2...1...

The single best moment in Daytime history and one of the rate times I somehow was watching Bold live. 

I'm still loving this show, although I have been bad about keeping up with the episodes, let alone this board.  This week I'm actually up to date on the show, and there's only 12(!) pages of this thread, so I figured I'd jump in before I fall behind.

I feel like maybe they're starting to overcome some of the pacing problems.  Or maybe it's just that enough of the show has been compelling for me lately and I'm just hoping they'll continue to keep those threads going.

I do agree with what many have said about the dialogue, which has been my biggest disappointment.  I don't watch B&B so my expectations were based entirely on MVJ's work on GH, where she wrote truly some of the best scripts in soap history.  To be fair, I'm not sure how many from that team are still in the industry (Mulcahey seems to be really done?), and I don't want MVJ herself to be bogged down in editing every line, when the stories and characters need to capture an audience.  All to say I get that she has to make do with who's left in the industry and/or train newcomers.  I can deal with it, especially in weeks like last week when the stories really do work.

Apart from the pacing, they've clearly started to reset some things, now that I presume we're seeing scripts and story projections informed by how the original vision has translated from page to screen.  Much of that is probably for the best, even if a bit jarring, like Chelsea/Madison.  I just hope they slow down with some of the soap cliches that I was happy to start a new soap fresh without: I hate the fake/temporary paralysis trope, which is not doing Ashley/Derek any favors, but also Eva having not one but too long-lost relatives in the Duprees' sphere is starting to catch up with the soaps that have been rewriting characters' family trees for decades now.

I'm actually not entirely sure where they're going to land with the tone.  Case in point: I could easily see Naomi's pregnancy ending in either a baby switch story with Hayley or Naomi having an abortion and that being that.  I truly hope it's not the former, but in any case I actually am unable to predict what's going to happen next right now.

Relatedly, it seems like the scripts seem to be de-emphasizing the political element, at least the day to day of DC in 2025, which is probably for the best (or should I say the least worst they can do) under the circumstances.  Something like The Good Fight would not be sustainable on a daily basis, especially given the pace of the news cycle now even compared to the first Trump administration, not that there is any way CBS/Paramount's current owners would air that today.  BtG is progressive in so many ways, not to mention a beautiful artistic creation for any time, and I want it to stay on the air. 

2 hours ago, Antoyne said:

The single best moment in Daytime history and one of the rate times I somehow was watching Bold live. 

ahahahahahahahahah!!!! No!!!

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

ahahahahahahahahah!!!! No!!!

I literally could not believe what I was seeing. I’ve never laughed so damn hard at a non comedy scene in my entire life. 

5 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I literally could not believe what I was seeing. I’ve never laughed so damn hard at a non comedy scene in my entire life. 

I'm getting tickled just thinking about it. I believe it.

I'm rewatching the last of the September episodes and silly me...I guess I was not paying attention to all of the Jacob/Naomi scene.

 

I know I mentioned Smitty and Marcel's meeting. Now this talk with Jacob and Naomi where she called him out on his tendency to dig. Don't tell me Doug's murder is going to lead Jacob to Kenny's murder...

On 10/4/2025 at 3:34 PM, ranger1rg said:

-- Ben Gavin has a good moment here and there -- among some very awkward moments that do not work. I'm not calling for a recast, but he needs to improve.

-- I don't see the comparison between Ben Gavin and Joshua Morrow except that they're both good looking. Was Morrow rough when he started? Yes, but he was much younger then than Gavin is now. By Ben Gavin's age, Josh Morrow was doing much better work.

-- We've done this before. JM regularly is raked over the coals on this board, and I step in to defend him, and no, it's not just because he's hot.

-- Morrow nails the Nick character perfectly. Is he playing himself? Maybe -- but he's also playing Nick. The guy is always prepared, always knows his lines, is generous to other actors, and never phones it in. I don't get the criticism.

-- Why is calling Morrow a frat boy a criticism anyway? Nick is a frat boy -- and always has been. The casting was perfect.

I don't even like B&B, but I'm stuck watching the last 5 minutes waiting for BTG when I watch it live. Watching JM's son reminds me of just how much JM sucked when he joined Y&R. He's a spitting image and a terrible actor, also. I just had to say that. I know its irrelevant to BTG. I just had to add my two cents. 

On 10/4/2025 at 6:21 PM, Paul Raven said:

Yea I kinda see that, but I think Bill and Hayley both having been around the Duprees would have more of an idea of what constitutes 'good taste'.

And they mentioned Hayley used a designer.

I guess maybe the set designer went overboard with the brief. It doesn't look garish and expensive- which it should be- just tacky and cheap. 

And the room itself is too small with no windows and that table and chairs that are squashed in at the entrance

And the opposite (but nowhere as bad) is Nicole's house which is supposed to be restrained and minimalist but comes off to me as bland and lifeless.

 

Dani's house for the win!

I haven't had time to watch for a few weeks.  Just happened upon this scene on Ambyr's IG. 

First, I'll post a screengrab from the comments of Ambyr's IG post, 
Taby responding to the characters in the scene

 

Here's the IG post

https://www.instagram.com/p/DPRQYvXgIir/

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💔 THIS is the kind of work that made me fall in love with acting. To be able to lose myself so completely in a character that all you see is her — her flaws, her fears, her heart… her humanity. Perfect or not. Even the hidden pieces she never wanted anyone to see.

Thank you to the writers for creating such a layered, complex character. Eva is constantly stretching me, growing me. @michelevaljean

Thank you to every single person behind the scenes for your endless hard work making us look good.

Thank you GOD for trusting me to bring Eva to life. ✨

Thank you @therealkimcoleman for taking a chance on me. 🫶🏽

And thank you all for the love. I’m really feeling it. 🥹💖

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#actress
#explore
#fyp
 

 

 

 

 

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