6 hours ago, j swift said:

I did some research because I had a similar question. (also, I don't want to poop on your joke which was amusing, but it sent me down a rabbit hole)

A Reddit user who works at TeleVision City (where Y&R is filmed) estimated it takes 45 minutes to set up or reconstruct an already built set.  However, according to union rules, it takes at least seven crew members (not counting lighting and sound installation).  As always, the real cost is the labor, not the task.  

Y&R uses robotic cameras, so there is only a skeleton crew on set.  Most of their crew budget goes to production assistants, who cannot move sets.  So, they would need to hire a crew every time they wanted to put up or take down a set (for two days) as well as a lighting and sound design installation.  Which is obviously very different from how production worked when money was more freely spent (and good for the unions for keeping the workplace safe).

So, filming a single day in Lauren and Michael's living room could cost as much as they spend on two actors salaries for an entire year.

Thanks so much for that detail.

Robotic cameras? How does that work?

So it seems that the eateries are permanent sets, hence why we see them everyday.

PB said the Abbott house is permanent. Maybe the Newman Ranch.

That means the only money is being spent on erecting  a couple of other sets to be used for that week  eg Nate's apartment, Billy's house, Newman office etc

It really is destroying the storytelling. Especially with JG's focus on business stories.

Well, lack of focus on business stories. 

 Thurs sees Lily and Damian at GCAC spending an entire episode talking.

Nate and Audra at Society talking-but wait Kyle and Claire arrive, so they have someone else to talk to for the entire episode.

Amanda at CL talking to Devon and Abby for the entire episode.

 The Young in the Restaurants continues...

 

lol

1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

 Thurs sees Lily and Damian at GCAC spending an entire episode talking.

Nate and Audra at Society talking-but wait Kyle and Claire arrive, so they have someone else to talk to for the entire episode.

Amanda at CL talking to Devon and Abby for the entire episode.

 The Young in the Restaurants continues...

 

It's beyond pathetic and absurd.

If this is the budget model they have to follow, I'm OK with a cancellation. This sets problem is horrendous, and it's destroying the show. I can't get past it.

Tbh I’m ready for Sharon to get with a silver fox. It was gross years ago when the writers put her with Victor and Tucker but I feel like enough time has passed. The actress is older now, and if they aren’t gonna put her back with Nick then might as well put her with a hot older, powerful man. (Not Victor, just to be clear..) 

8 hours ago, j swift said:

I did some research because I had a similar question. (also, I don't want to poop on your joke which was amusing, but it sent me down a rabbit hole)

A Reddit user who works at TeleVision City (where Y&R is filmed) estimated it takes 45 minutes to set up or reconstruct an already built set.  However, according to union rules, it takes at least seven crew members (not counting lighting and sound installation).  As always, the real cost is the labor, not the task.  

Y&R uses robotic cameras, so there is only a skeleton crew on set.  Most of their crew budget goes to production assistants, who cannot move sets.  So, they would need to hire a crew every time they wanted to put up or take down a set (for two days) as well as a lighting and sound design installation.  Which is obviously very different from how production worked when money was more freely spent (and good for the unions for keeping the workplace safe).

So, filming a single day in Lauren and Michael's living room could cost as much as they spend on two actors salaries for an entire year.

That’s very interesting and thanks for the response. That was a question that has been nagging me for awhile. 🤣

3 hours ago, Ryanc2 said:

Tbh I’m ready for Sharon to get with a silver fox. It was gross years ago when the writers put her with Victor and Tucker but I feel like enough time has passed. The actress is older now, and if they aren’t gonna put her back with Nick then might as well put her with a hot older, powerful man. (Not Victor, just to be clear..) 

Agree not Victor! Very good that you are clear and careful what you wish for!

Edited May 23May 23 by janea4old

I can conjure up a modicum of sympathy for Josh having to create stories based around restaurants sets, but it extends just so far...

On 5/22/2025 at 10:40 AM, j swift said:

However, according to union rules, it takes at least seven crew members (not counting lighting and sound installation).  As always, the real cost is the labor, not the task.  

Thanks for letting us know about that.  All this time, I've been thinking they were just too lazy to create a simple, temporary set for an office.  That clearly ain't the case; it's the never-ending budget crisis.  The "business stories" about all these zillion different companies can't be told effectively in a restaurant, so they probably need to re-think the type of stories they're telling.     

Sigh. Even though MAB was one of the first to completely murder this show, she did have me tuning in everyday to see what would happen next because her writing was so off the wall. I can’t say that about JG. It’s just flat and boring, and not only is he boring but his writing is still just as damaging as MAB was. What’s worst than that? 

This is the worst May sleeps in years and going head to head with May 2021.

Has anything actually happened on this show at all? 

I can see why Alison Lainier bailed on this kingdom of boredom. You can tell JG is now even struggling with his new pet Claire.

Where and when does all of this pointless misery come to an end? 

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

This is the worst May sleeps in years and going head to head with May 2021.

What was May 2021?

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

What was May 2021?

Bad enough I barely remember LOL. I recall the month was tied between the surrogacy, Phyllis sleuthing on her laptop at the bar in the Grand Phoenix about Tara and Ashland, and Sally getting Summer her dream job to get her out of town.

1 minute ago, soapfan770 said:

Bad enough I barely remember LOL. I recall the month was tied between the surrogacy, Phyllis sleuthing on her laptop at the bar in the Grand Phoenix about Tara and Ashland, and Sally getting Summer her dream job to get her out of town.

Ooooh. Sounds like the lame stories that came right before Diane came back from the dead.

29 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Ooooh. Sounds like the lame stories that came right before Diane came back from the dead.

Yeah. I think the high point was Amanda meeting Imani. 

JG’s first year was okay, nothing special but an improvement over over  Mal’s final months despite resetting everything back to like it was 2013 again.

I’m not sure what JG had intended long term going into 2020, but COVID really did a number on the show and really has never since recovered. 
 

I’d March 2022-summer 2023 was probably his best work this go around.