5 minutes ago, Days22 said:

idk about some of the surrounding issues but John Black dying while in bandages is actually genius. Going out the way he came.

"Genius" might be hyperbolic, but I agree it is clever. 🥸

3 minutes ago, j swift said:

"Genius" might be hyperbolic, but I agree it is clever. 🥸

😆 I'm dramatic. But it's a great touch. And a great homage to Marlena first meeting The Pawn in the same place holding his hand. 

15 minutes ago, Days22 said:

it's a great touch. And a great homage to Marlena first meeting The Pawn in the same place holding his hand. 

This beautiful full circle moment of Marlena holding his hand and caring for a mysterious man in bandages who would become the one true love of her life. ❤️💜 #Jarlena #Days

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May I get a moment of recognition for waiting until now to mention the bizarre time/space continuum that brought Hope to and from Salem?  Was that the result of Julie's wish? 🪄

I hope someone IRL holds an 8×10 photo of me like that some day. (that was some prime soapy action, and it looked a bit painful, Julie's not a young woman, and it takes some strength to hold a frame while maintaining an arm extension. 💪

Should we assume that the meth-heads are related to the loan-sharks that threatened Doug³ and Holly?

Note: Zach, Holly, Belle, and Ceara's classmates turned out to be criminals - it's starting to make sense why so many families choose out of state boarding schools -- the Salem Public School System is sketchy.

Edited May 23May 23 by j swift

59 minutes ago, j swift said:

May I get a moment of recognition for waiting until now to mention the bizarre time/space continuum that brought Hope to and from Salem?  Was that the result of Julie's wish? 🪄

 

I confirmed with the show today that Bo's Hospital Room is in Salem, so they were all in Salem today.

2 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

I confirmed with the show today that Bo's Hospital Room is in Salem, so they were all in Salem today.

I appreciate the clarity. May I presume that indicates you shared my confusion?

Edited May 23May 23 by j swift

13 minutes ago, j swift said:

I appreciate the clarity. May I presume that indicates you shared my confusion?

I am not Jason, but I shared your confusion.  I thought Shawn mentioned he had to get on a flight to see Bo a few days ago.  If he was just in Salem this whole time Shawn could have easily stopped by as could everyone else that was super concerned.  I don't think they would move someone in that dire condition on a plane or anything, so it seems like a continuity error IMO.

19 minutes ago, j swift said:

I appreciate the clarity. May I presume that indicates you shared my confusion?

I didn't know where he was, so I shared your confusion in that regards, and then I shared my confusion and the other fans confusion about where Bo was and asked the publicist this:

Question: Is the name of the set "Bo's Hospital Room?" (if not, what is it?) Fans were trying to figure out today where Bo exactly was...is he nearby Salem now or still overseas somewhere?

Answer: yes, in Salem

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

If he was just in Salem this whole time Shawn could have easily stopped by as could everyone else that was super concerned.  I don't think they would move someone in that dire condition on a plane or anything, so it seems like a continuity error IMO.

And Kayla could've checked in on him...

I'm willing to dismiss the missing exposition (after this comment), but I was beginning to wonder if Bo's dream was how they all suddenly appeared in Salem.

5 minutes ago, j swift said:

And Kayla could've checked in on him...

I'm willing to dismiss the missing exposition (after this comment), but I was beginning to wonder if Bo's dream was how they all suddenly appeared in Salem.

There wasn't any exposition on this that I recall, but I was too busy sobbing over John's death to notice if I am being honest.

Also, good to see that Hope has kept up Bo's fade for the past year.

It must be tough to maintain a high and tight fade, when your client is in a coma.

I spent the afternoon coming up with an alternative story idea for John's death.

Suppose, Orpheus wasn't caught after Marlena, Steve, Paul and Andrew foiled the nuclear bomb plot, but took John as his prisoner and went on the lam. Eventually, it gets revealed that he was the one who had the sepsis drug stolen, not some random junkie. And he uses that, and John as bait to lure Marlena, Steve, Shawn, etc. to where he's holding John. While they're all searching for Orpheus, John and the drug, Shawn manages to find the drug and rushes off to save Bo, but immediately after that, Orpheus captures Steve and Marlena and ties them up in a room with John, who's also tied up and weak but has a bomb strapped to his chest. As the bomb ticks down, Orpheus explains that he's finally going to kill them all, once and for all. But just as he's about to leave the room, and the timer on the bomb reaches zero, John breaks free of his restraints and attacks Orpheus. They struggle, fall out a window and the bomb explodes, killing both John and Orpheus. 

Idk if that's the best idea in the world, but it seems to work for me. Not only would it have John die as a hero, but it would also rid us of Orpheus, who I hope is completely forgotten about now. Even though Marlena, Steve, Roman, etc. are still on canvas, he has no purpose anymore now that John is dead. And it just doesn't feel right to me that John is gonna be dead, while Orpheus is still alive. In some ways, it almost feels like, after all these years, he beat John. Which is total crap. If Stefano couldn't beat John, there's no way this pain in the ass could do it 😂

Edited May 23May 23 by AbcNbc247

9 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And it just doesn't feel right to me that John is gonna be dead, while Orpheus is still alive. In some ways, it almost feels like, after all these years, he beat John. Which is total crap. If Stefano couldn't beat John, there's no way this pain in the ass could do it

I'm going to rationalize it with this bit of irony: in a world filled with facial transplants, computer brain chips, and prisms, drugs are the only crime an international spy hero cannot solve. (too ABC afterschool special?)

Edited May 23May 23 by j swift

Just now, j swift said:

I'm going to rationalize it this way: in a world filled with facial transplants, computer brain chips, and prisms, drugs are the only crime an international spy hero cannot solve. (too ABC afterschool special?)

Fine by me, as long as our hero goes out in a blaze of glory 👍😂

This entire week has been really good!  First starting with Xander beating up Philip.  I too didn't expect to see Xander get so violent, by kicking Philip numerous times. And I didn't expect Philip to tell Xander that "Sarah knew," which lead to Wednesday's wonderful scenes with Xander/Sarah confronting each other.  I think those scenes were definitely Lindsay's best acting that she's done on the show.  I'm not really a huge fan of Sarah/Xander as a romantic couple - I don't hate them either.  But Lindsay and Paul do have a ton of acting chemistry and these scenes proved that. 

I don't read spoilers so I had no idea Bo/Hope were going to be on today.  That was a nice surprise.  Same with Ciara showing up. I totally forgot Ciara has two kids with Ben. I liked how she talked about them and Zack.  I've always liked Victoria Konefal and thought she did a good job today. And yes, I didn't mind seeing Ciara's usual cleavage shot during those emotional scenes. Thank you, wardrobe department!  LOL

Could the lead up to John's death have been better?  Sure.  But I didn't hate it.  I liked that John's final act was saving Bo's life.  And that full circle moment at the hospital with Marlena was poetic. 

I was starting to get a bit teary eyed during today's episode.  Next week is going to be tough.

 

57 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Fine by me, as long as our hero goes out in a blaze of glory 👍😂

I don't know if John getting blown up to pieces would've been the right idea.  😂