There is ZILCH reason for Cane to return.

He has no relatives on the canvas, and they don't seem interested in bringing back the twins after the idiotic SORASING.

Putting him back in Lily's orbit would be stifling for that character.

And Cane was a horrible character with a dumb backstory.

 

7 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Billy is rumored to be the albatross that is no longer on Y&R? Say it ain't so.

Le sigh. It’s certainly been a persistent rumor.

The ONLY way such a story could work is if Cane came back as a short term villain. He would be nasty, vengeful, bitter, spiteful etc and his short term arc would have him winding up dead. 

(credit to @dragonflies for finding the tweet)

Here is why the rumor is back...
From a group of French Y&R viewers, (Y&R is called "Les Feux de l'Amour" in France), they are active on social media.

May 21, 2025, they said on their twitter and facebook pages that there is a *RUMOR* that Aristotle Dumas is a pseudonym for Cane Ashby, and thus Billy Flynn is playing Dumas who is actually Cane.

Now on May 28, they tweeted this screenshot from the IG stories of Y&R costume designer Mandi Lane.
Wardrobe hanger labeled with a character name starts with "CA".
Behind that CA wardrobe hanger, you can see one for "Abby".



https://x.com/LFDLAYR/status/1927771297599094958

https://x.com/LFDLAYR/status/192784866143150121

 

Edited May 29May 29 by janea4old

My thoughts/speculations/wonderings...

Billy Flynn isn't Australian, so how could he be playing Cane?
(yes I know JoshGriffith rarely make sense).

I know nothing.  But I'm not convinced that Dumas is actually Cane.  It's theoretically possible that Cane is working with Dumas, or working against Dumas.  *Maybe* they're the same person? But it just doesn't make sense to me.  I just don't know if Cane and Dumas are two different characters who will both debut at the same time with two different actors playing recast Cane and new character Dumas? Or if they are the same person played by one actor.

It does seem plausible that Cane would be written as plotting about Chancellor and about Winters, since Cane pretended to be Jill's son and because Lily divorced his lying a.ss.

But I don't believe Victor Newman would be ranting about Dumas if Dumas is Cane. Why would Victor care about Cane?  I mean, Nikki is running Chancellor and Victor would want that protected, but wouldn't Victor view Cane as being unworthy of notice?

Billy Flynn was filming Days into part of April.
The Y&R episodes that aired recently were filmed around April 8th, based on behind-the-scenes pics.  So that would fit for Flynn to first appear on Y&R onscreen at end of May or in early June.  (whoever his Y&R character is)

The original Billy Flynn casting announcement says
"he will debut later this spring in a newly created role."
https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/casting-shock-days-star-billy-flynn-heads-to-young-and-restless/

A newly created role.  That doesn't say recast.  Unless that's subterfuge.

 

(I just edited this post a bunch of times, thinking aloud, trying to make it make sense, LOL.   I'm sure I'll be proven wrong about all my speculations, but whatever)
I just don't want smarmy Cane back.

Edited May 29May 29 by janea4old

I posted this on the Mishael Morgan thread ("Y&R: Former actor returning for guest stint").

I'll add it here, too, since it relates to Billy Flynn and Aristotle Dumas:

Mishael Morgan interview with Jeevan Brar of Canadian site "thetvwatercooler.com".
Uploaded May 20, 2025.  She said she went home to Toronto for the Victoria Day Canadian holiday long weekend, but was back in L.A., implying that she was still taping Y&R.

When asked if she has taped with Billy Flynn, she said yes but gave no details.

At the end of the interview she says there is a party coming up for the Dumas reveal, they built a whole new set for it, it's going to be fun and very beautiful.

Edited May 29May 29 by janea4old

I doubt JG gives a crap that Cane was Australian, he'll rewrite the whole character if it fits his agenda lol

lmao, if he is Cane I called it. It's because of Beyond the Gates - all these shows are trying to quickly write "black storylines" and line up black characters and Y&R wants to put Lily right up front and centere, and all they could think about to do so was bring back Cane. A Mess. 🤣

Lily is already front and center....

42 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Lily is already front and center....

not really, she's been treated as a support character with stories happening around her. It's been a long time since a storyline has been *about* her and not her boyfriend or Devon/her family. 

50 minutes ago, dio said:

all they could think about to do so was bring back Cane.

Sadly, the only thing JG knows how to do is resurrect old storylines and old characters.

This is *not* good for the character of Lily at all.  If she defeats Cane in business, fine, if he runs away.  But if they fall in love? ewwww.  

I like Billy Flynn, but I'm not going to give the horrible character Cane a pass.  Nope.
 

Edited May 29May 29 by janea4old

Cane is no better or worse than anyone on the canvas, curranty. I don't understand why peeps hate him so much, regardless of Goddard playing him. For me personally as long as it's not Goddard (w/ his creepy bts antics) I don't care. He's basically a brand new character to me. lol

1 hour ago, dio said:

lmao, if he is Cane I called it. It's because of Beyond the Gates - all these shows are trying to quickly write "black storylines" and line up black characters and Y&R wants to put Lily right up front and centere, and all they could think about to do so was bring back Cane. A Mess. 🤣

If that is the case, it's a very self-destructive way to go about it, as I am not sure how many black viewers are going to give a damn about her being used to propel Cane storyline. I'm not sure Lily has any real importance to potential new or lapsed viewers anyway.

Edited May 29May 29 by DRW50

1 hour ago, dio said:

It's because of Beyond the Gates - all these shows are trying to quickly write "black storylines" and line up black characters

They've got all these BIPOC characters appearing regularly: Lily, Nate, Damian, Holden, and Audra; with somewhat less regular appearances by Devon, Amanda, and Amy.
This was already an improvement.  I thought some of this was in response to BeyondTheGates.

I don't see how bringing in Cane-as-Dumas helps Lily in any way.

14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

There is ZILCH reason for Cane to return.

He has no relatives on the canvas, and they don't seem interested in bringing back the twins after the idiotic SORASING.

Putting him back in Lily's orbit would be stifling for that character.

And Cane was a horrible character with a dumb backstory.

 

Amen!! Speak on it.

 

9 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Le sigh. It’s certainly been a persistent rumor.

The ONLY way such a story could work is if Cane came back as a short term villain. He would be nasty, vengeful, bitter, spiteful etc and his short term arc would have him winding up dead. 

Well the good news is even IF it's true, we know JG will make it short term. Look at Tucker.  

 

And JFP (if the rumor is true she's back) didn't care about Cane either, did she? Or am I wrong? 

Cane is simply not a strong enough character to recast. If it was DG, at least you'd be able to reintroduce the character with years of clips. Unlike, say, when Phyllis was recast, you had a strong, memorable character with ties up and down the canvas. 

I hope BF is someone else - though the character would need strong GC ties. I only three meaningful routes: a sibling/child - tied to Diane, Lauren/Michael or Devon (via Tucker).

If Tucker had an unmentioned son, it would make sense that he'd want to protect Winters and try to get Chancellor back. And also explain the secrecy. 

The Fosters/Prentiss families have long been forgotten so that would not only create an island, but also not be relevant to most of the existing audience.