Hot take: I would recast Hayley with Loren Lott.

@Darn come thru!

Just now, Maxim said:

I think pretending to have a loaded gun and making people think you're going to kill them... is quite "bad" too...   

She only wanted to scare them. Well, also humiliate them. But, of course, you are perfectly entitled to your own list! This is my polite way of telling you to get your hands off of my list! 

 

Listen guys, I don’t care what we saw that she did, but my girl Dana/Lesie/Shelly is INNOCENT and is just getting what’s due to her! I refuse to see it any other way! 😇🙃

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

Hot take: I would recast Hayley with Loren Lott.

1 minute ago, Contessa Donatella said:

She only wanted to scare them. Well, also humiliate them. But, of course, you are perfectly entitled to your own list! This is my polite way of telling you to get your hands off of my list! 

 

Tell that to the potential PTSD that someone might suffer from "a scare" like that. It's illegal. It's disgusting. If someone did that to me... I would sue them TILL THE END. I would not let them have a bright day in their life. I've sued people for a lot less that that. Believe me. Hayley needs to step her sh-t up and take legal action against the psycho. 

Goings is fine but Loren Lott is great, tougher and would be a considerably more difficult tug of war for audience loyalty! I stand by it.

1 minute ago, Maxim said:

Tell that to the potential PTSD that someone might suffer from "a scare" like that. It's illegal. It's disgusting. If someone did that to me... I would sue them TILL THE END. I would not let them have a bright day in their life. I've sued people for a lot less that that. Believe me. Hayley needs to step her sh-t up and take legal action against the psycho. 

I think it’s a major issue that Dani keeps getting enabled and people keep kissing her ass. And those who call her out are also quick to backtrack and excuse her actions (Nicole and Anita). 

She needs a character on her side that sees things more clearly and that can be brutally honest with her and her inherent toxicity. 

3 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think it’s a major issue that Dani keeps getting enabled and people keep kissing her ass. And those who call her out are also quick to backtrack and excuse her actions (Nicole and Anita). 

She needs a character on her side that sees things more clearly and that can be brutally honest with her and her inherent toxicity. 

This would be a good job for her best friend Pamela and Cady McClain would have the acting jobs to do these meaty scenes.  

Just now, BetterForgotten said:

I think it’s a major issue that Dani keeps getting enabled and people keep kissing her ass. And those who call her out are also quick to backtrack and excuse her actions (Nicole and Anita). 

She needs a character on her side that sees things more clearly and that can be brutally honest with her and her inherent toxicity. 

You are 100 percent right.

I'm starting to think... maybe subconsciously all these people enabling her... like to see her like this. It makes all of them appear so much saner and normal. I've seen family members in my own family... keeping a person unstable and refusing to help them or acknowledge a problem (I have a cousin with bipolar disorder that is constantly getting excused for her outbursts - including breaking furniture and slapping her mother on every day basis)... just because it makes their persona look better in comparison. Some people like to be all high and mighty... and feel above others. I have no idea if this is the case... but enablers have co-dependent relationships with the people they enable. And in the case of Dani... the toxicity is becoming more and more apparent. 

And agree again - there is no EXCUSING what she did. I don't care if that was a circus trick... a joke... a scare tactic... I saw what I saw...!

5 hours ago, Vee said:

I honestly find Naomi and Jacob to be a snooze.

In my experience most modern soaps have one sacrificial lamb early in their run. Often it's one of the purest or kindest characters. I think a Dupree will die in the first year (pre-planned or otherwise) and I won't be shocked if it is Naomi, who is angelic, upright and boring to a fault. I might cut both of them. He said in Week 3! I know, I'm awful.

As for the sacrificial lamb, while it could be Naomi I could also see it being Nicole at the hands of Leslie/Dana (maybe even accidentally). Nicole's death would cause ripples and could cause lots of stories with the DuPree's blaming Ted.

1 minute ago, AmandainNC28655 said:

As for the sacrificial lamb, while it could be Naomi I could also see it being Nicole at the hands of Leslie/Dana (maybe even accidentally). Nicole's death would cause ripples and could cause lots of stories with the DuPree's blaming Ted.

They would have to be suicidal to kill Nicole and fire DD. Not going to happen.

14 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Tell that to the potential PTSD that someone might suffer from "a scare" like that. It's illegal. It's disgusting. If someone did that to me... I would sue them TILL THE END. I would not let them have a bright day in their life. I've sued people for a lot less that that. Believe me. Hayley needs to step her sh-t up and take legal action against the psycho. 

Hayley has enough problems of her own. Besides, with the way she feels about the Dupree family, there is no way she would even consider litigation. Have you met Hayley? The person you are describing does not seem to be much like her. And, name-calling is beneath you. It's not beneath everyone but it is of you. A psycho would tend not to have logical motivation. Dani is full well 100% motivated, if not by anyone else, at least by the LOUT, her torturer, you know him by the name Bill. 

12 minutes ago, Maxim said:

You are 100 percent right.

I'm starting to think... maybe subconsciously all these people enabling her... like to see her like this. It makes all of them appear so much saner and normal. I've seen family members in my own family... keeping a person unstable and refusing to help them or acknowledge a problem (I have a cousin with bipolar disorder that is constantly getting excused for her outbursts - including breaking furniture and slapping her mother on every day basis)... just because it makes their persona look better in comparison. Some people like to be all high and mighty... and feel above others. I have no idea if this is the case... but enablers have co-dependent relationships with the people they enable. And in the case of Dani... the toxicity is becoming more and more apparent. 

And agree again - there is no EXCUSING what she did. I don't care if that was a circus trick... a joke... a scare tactic... I saw what I saw...!

Particularly with Vernon - it was totally tone deaf the other day to have him try to equate his arrests during the Civil Rights movement to Dani’s arrest. Who approved that? They need to have a warning. 

5 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

I assume this b/c I remember Sheila Duckworth and Daphnee Duplaix saying it gets real wacky for Nicole around the end of April. 

Very much this. May Sweeps is going to be popping.  

37 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Listen guys, I don’t care what we saw that she did, but my girl Dana/Lesie/Shelly is INNOCENT and is just getting what’s due to her! I refuse to see it any other way! 😇🙃

lol

24 minutes ago, AmandainNC28655 said:

As for the sacrificial lamb, while it could be Naomi I could also see it being Nicole at the hands of Leslie/Dana (maybe even accidentally). Nicole's death would cause ripples and could cause lots of stories with the DuPree's blaming Ted.

Don't you put that out there for Nicole. You all can have Naomi. 😜 

I thought Vernon saying that was to demonstrate the Duprees' selective hypocrisy re: their own interests. Like any powerful soap family. I also thought it was probably too soon.