11 hours ago, Liberty City said:

It's what Van Etten (and Korte/Valentini/Varni) do best.

Glad I'm not the only one but whenever O'Connor's name was listed first in-episode credits, I knew we'd have something a bit more to watch.

Why do you think whose name appears on top means anything?  It's just a rotation.  Crediting/blaming one writer over the other based on the rotation has no credibility. 

10 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Wasn't he mentioning some kind of anger toward Sonny early in his run? I remember people speculating at the time about where that would go.

IIRC Gio came on simply very sheltered about Sonny's life, grateful to him and expressing that he didn't know much about Sonny's business or why people hated him. This was just as Sonny was about to beat down Dex before Kristina's eyes at the Chase wedding.

13 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Absolutely! That & her supposed love for both Jason & also for Carly. 

I happen to be all in for a triangle of those three!

Yeah, that at least is still clear...her love for Jason and Carly.

 

They would probably mess it up, but one can dream. 

10 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Awwwww Tobias was mentioned!

Yay! Good to hear. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Toups said:

Why do you think whose name appears on top means anything?  It's just a rotation.  Crediting/blaming one writer over the other based on the rotation has no credibility. 

That might be because most writers...or at least their ideas...do have certain characteristics that can stand out...for better or for worse. 

 

I've mentioned for a while things that I liked and things that I don't like in the writing style since the New/Old Writers have taken over. And as the weeks and months have gone by, some characteristics do stand out. And I thought it was very interesting over the last day or so, episodes that have EK's name at the top of the episode have a certain bit of characteristics to them (for me scenes with more emotional resonance as I said yesterday) versus when CVE's have a certain bit of characteristics which happen to be most (note...not all) of the things that have bugged me a bit (as I call it the wacka wacka slapsticky humor) about the style in the writing. But that's me with my writer hat on and picking on me not picking up on that before the last day or so. But my posts stand for themselves so I ain't about to go over every detail of my reasoning since it's just a page or two back. Liberty was simply responding. And I also thought it would be nice now that the New/Old Writers have been there for a good minute to have a discuss on them and their 'individual' episodes so to speak. 

Regardless of the breakdown writers and script writers, the plotting is still noticeable enough to be noticed IMHO. So depending on writers' name does make a difference. 

8 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And honestly, I see this whole situation as well deserved karma and I couldn’t be happier.

You would. 😜 

 

10 hours ago, carolineg said:

I am probably the only one on this board who even mildly likes Sonny 🤣 and most days I don't.  I just don't hate him.

Grateful, unless he is involved with She of the Beautiful Dark Locks, I want to say that I'm in the DisLike Sonny crew...but I will admit he only seems to get me out of that crew when he's in scenes with Dante ONLY. 

 

9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Maybe it was Gio and Trina arguing about Sonny vs Ava at the time. 

It probably was. It was the first time they gave Gio something different to play and it gave the first sign of organic conflict between Gio and Trina if the writers were planning on putting them together which is why those scenes stood out. Gio definitely idolizes Sonny while Trina's friendship with Ava runs deep. Once Gio learned the Sonny/Ava history, he felt a way about Ava getting him to work at the art gallery when he was looking for exposure.

10 hours ago, carolineg said:

Well, I have lasted this long, so it's unlikely.😂

You have strength in numbers.  I am probably the only one on this board who even mildly likes Sonny 🤣 and most days I don't.  I just don't hate him.

I don't recall.  I remember him not knowing Sonny very well at all in the beginning yet he paid for all Gio's schooling-which seemed really odd.

Look at this point I think the only thing that will work on you is Sonny causing Brenda’s death 😂And then Ric can gloat that Sonny did it and I can live happily ever after 😂

11 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Jordan and Isaiah’s face cards are unmatched. My mom (who no longer watches soaps these days) was swooning over them.

 

11 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Jordan and Isaiah will make a beautiful couple. The way the Isaiah actor lights up the second he sees Jordan is just perfect. He has it so bad for her.

Your mom ain't the only one who swoons. And like Antoyne said...when Isaiah actor gets that look...mmmm *swoons*

 

11 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Mathison was born to play Drew as the sleezeball Quartermaine. I despised him as Ryan who was so overly self righteous all the time, but I’m such a fan of him as Drew since the affair first started with Nina and moved to Willow. He also has perfect antagonistic chemistry with SB as Jason. This show loves killing people off but I’m hoping they resist with Drew.

 

11 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Cameron Mathison really works as a heel. So much time wasted trying to sell him as a good guy.

I admit that as much as it seem like Drew is being written into a corner, CM is making him very love to hate. CM hasn't played Drew like Drew was since he appeared in that prison with all that scruff. So if they are going to do something with Drew....at least we are getting Drew Q. And there was some development to this point. And yes, CM has great antagonistic chemistry with SB's Jason. Love that the simmer it had throughout the year has finally started to boil over and the Qs are right in the middle of it. Then again...whoever wins against Jason?

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

If he meant an older man preying on a troubled younger woman, he's not far off. Is that what he meant?

Found the video. He wants them to be a supercouple 😂😂😂

He starts talking about GH at around 2:30

 

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

You would. 😜 

It’s not a very nice feeling to be tossed aside by someone who means a lot to you 😉

55 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Found the video. He wants them to be a supercouple 😂😂😂

He starts talking about GH at around 2:30

 

LOL! Yeah, this confirms several things I had heard that he's been saying! Sorry to say he sounds delusional to me!

But, my #1 takeaway is that Cameron talks very fast, which Drew does not! Interesting. 

Also thanks for finding & posting this. 

13 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Mathison was born to play Drew as the sleezeball Quartermaine. I despised him as Ryan who was so overly self righteous all the time, but I’m such a fan of him as Drew since the affair first started with Nina and moved to Willow. He also has perfect antagonistic chemistry with SB as Jason. This show loves killing people off but I’m hoping they resist with Drew.

I think Mulcahey had recrafted him into being kind of the political/business-mindeed Quartermaine operator and rakish, somewhat gray rogue character, but not a full-on heel as he's rapidly become now under the returning team. Both iterations work here and Cameron plays them well, but I do think Drew's likely to join Sam in the hereafter very soon. Which is too bad IMO, but unsurprising. This show always knows how to squander good opportunities.

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Yeah, that at least is still clear...her love for Jason and Carly.

Agree & also agree with your presumed perspective that quite a bit about this writing team IS NOT CLEAR. I find them confounding, perplexing & downright confusing. 

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

They would probably mess it up, but one can dream. 

Right! Or right? Anyway, yes, likely they would mess up fill-in-the-blank. But, you'd think a Gio/Trina/Kai triangle would write itself!!

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

...  And I thought it was very interesting over the last day or so, episodes that have EK's name at the top of the episode have a certain bit of characteristics to them (for me scenes with more emotional resonance as I said yesterday) versus when CVE's have a certain bit of characteristics which happen to be most (note...not all) of the things that have bugged me a bit (as I call it the wacka wacka slapsticky humor) about the style in the writing. ... 

I am one who doesn't know what it is you're referencing with this "wacka wacka" phrase. In case you'd like to explain, here's a chance. But, if you'd rather not, that's okay, too. 

 

12 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

What happened to Michael Knight? It's like he forgot how to act or something. Why is he even on this show?

Lucky looked really domestic. Kind of goes against the last couple of months of him saying every 10 minutes that he needs to leave town..

I think that Laura will make Martin the new DA.

3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

am one who doesn't know what it is you're referencing with this "wacka wacka" phrase. In case you'd like to explain, here's a chance. But, if you'd rather not, that's okay, too. 

 

41 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

 

Thanks!

9 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Look at this point I think the only thing that will work on you is Sonny causing Brenda’s death 😂And then Ric can gloat that Sonny did it and I can live happily ever after 😂

Well, yes, that would make me hate Sonny 😂  Lucky for me no one currently involved in running or writing this show cares about Brenda at all, so I am not too worried about it.

I get sick of Sonny and the same old storylines, the same old romances, him constantly getting away with multiple crimes, blaming his poor decisions on others, etc.  I just don't hate him and hope one day the show turns the character around.  

29 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I get sick of Sonny and the same old storylines, the same old romances, him constantly getting away with multiple crimes, blaming his poor decisions on others, etc.  I just don't hate him and hope one day the show turns the character around.  

I kinda love this. It explains so much. We should all adopt this attitude. We spend way too much time on hating Sonny. We could spend that time on other things. Why didn't I think of this? All this time I've been hating on him.