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50 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Valentini produces this show without emotion and in a very sterile manner. You should feel more from some of these scenes, but they're produced in such a factory settings way that you're drawn away. It's the actors who try doing the heavy lifting, and the production does not support them. 

True, and the writing isn't supporting them, either.

NLG did all she could in her scenes with Sam, but what she was given was tired and cliche. I've heard it all before on dozens of soaps, and I just wasn't moved when I should have been.

And what's with the continuity in makeup and hair? Are they piecing scenes taped on different days? When Alexis is in the hospital waiting area, she looks stripped of makeup and very pale. In Sam's room, she's wearing more eye makeup and her face has a sheen.

Van Hansis' hair was not shiny and slicked back the way it was in the operating room. Did the hair product stop working?

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7 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Some of those episodes I really wanted to feel something but the scenes were like 60 seconds. There was no time to breathe at all.

Stop playing my song! ;) 

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7 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

True, and the writing isn't supporting them, either.

NLG did all she could in her scenes with Sam, but what she was given was tired and cliche. I've heard it all before on dozens of soaps, and I just wasn't moved when I should have been.

And what's with the continuity in makeup and hair? Are they piecing scenes taped on different days? When Alexis is in the hospital waiting area, she looks stripped of makeup and very pale. In Sam's room, she's wearing more eye makeup and her face has a sheen.

Van Hansis' hair was not shiny and slicked back the way it was in the operating room. Did the hair product stop working?

Episodes aren't taped as episodes; they're block-taped, and then pieced into episodes. Kelly Monaco kept being re-positioned throughout the episode, too. This has been a problem on GH since even pre-COVID, in terms of consisency.

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8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Are they piecing scenes taped on different days?

Going by how people mention FV's technique to get these 'hip' 60 second 'primetime' cuts of scenes...I believe the answer would be yes. 

1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

Episodes aren't taped as episodes; they're block-taped, and then pieced into episodes. Kelly Monaco kept being re-positioned throughout the episode, too. This has been a problem on GH since even pre-COVID, in terms of consisency.

Ah!!! That was the answer I was looking for! 

 

Because just watching this week's episodes...it's just...ugh. But I couldn't remember what FV's way of 'editing' works. So thank you.

 

He really ain't S^&* for that, is he? 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Going by how people mention FV's technique to get these 'hip' 60 second 'primetime' cuts of scenes...I believe the answer would be yes. 

Ah!!! That was the answer I was looking for! 

Because just watching this week's episodes...it's just...ugh. But I couldn't remember what FV's way of 'editing' works. So thank you.

He really ain't S^&* for that, is he? 

It's what he's done since they returned from COVID hiatus; the spoiler preview for today mentioned Ned & Tracy, and yet they did not appear; whatever "Sam" material airs tomorrow, I am sure could have been edited into today's episode, and the Willow/Michael/Sasha things could have waited. Also to mention: the credits for writers & directors did not air until the second set of scenes post-opening credits.

Plus, on the episode Sasha went to Robert's office and then Nina's office her hair/makeup changed between scenes. Clearly, both shot on different days, and her hair TODAY when she left the hotel room semi-mirrored when she showed up at Robert's office.

MESS. This is why you should be shooting "episodes" and not "scenes". And it's why Robert Adamson appeared sporadically in June and July 2022: he taped scenes in the time he was there, and they aired over a period of time.

It's lazy.

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OK, just watched the scenes with Jason reacting to Sam's death.

Don't remember ever saying this about Steve Burton, but he was the best part of the episode.

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13 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I remember when I came back for Bobbie’s death. Some of those episodes I really wanted to feel something but the scenes were like 60 seconds. There was no time to breathe at all.

That was how I felt with the Lucky/Laura reunion. The slapdash style undermines very good actors in scenes that should be easy to wring emotion out of.

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6 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

It's what he's done since they returned from COVID hiatus; the spoiler preview for today mentioned Ned & Tracy, and yet they did not appear; whatever "Sam" material airs tomorrow, I am sure could have been edited into today's episode, and the Willow/Michael/Sasha things could have waited. Also to mention: the credits for writers & directors did not air until the second set of scenes post-opening credits.

Plus, on the episode Sasha went to Robert's office and then Nina's office her hair/makeup changed between scenes. Clearly, both shot on different days, and her hair TODAY when she left the hotel room semi-mirrored when she showed up at Robert's office.

MESS. This is why you should be shooting "episodes" and not "scenes". And it's why Robert Adamson appeared sporadically in June and July 2022: he taped scenes in the time he was there, and they aired over a period of time.

It's lazy.

LOL!!! Not you sounding like what I posted this morning after watching 10-30. But to be fair...I've have noticed that is how I've been feeling since last week and sadly it IS increasing. Like you I find it lazy and oh so sloppy. 

 

So...since I brought it. Is that how block-taping works? If so, he needs to get his money back. 

 

Same for how LH filmed when she filmed as Sam I believe.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

That was how I felt with the Lucky/Laura reunion. The slapdash style undermines very good actors in scenes that should be easy to wring emotion out of.

And then there was two. 


Because I said the same thing. And I was OVER the 'wacka wacka' vibe they keep trying to put over scenes that need to be play serious. They did that last week or the week before with the Holly is Sasha's mother reveal and I was livid. Thankfully, they had the basically same scene with Holly, Felicia, and Maxie and it was played more straight (cuz Maxie would be snarky about that and that was IN CHARACTER), allowed to breathe surprisingly IMHO, and humanized Holly greatly. More than the first scenes with her and Sasha. 

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2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

LOL!!! Not you sounding like what I posted this morning after watching 10-30. But to be fair...I've have noticed that is how I've been feeling since last week and sadly it IS increasing. Like you I find it lazy and oh so sloppy. 

So...since I brought it. Is that how block-taping works? If so, he needs to get his money back. 

No clue how it works; I just know they tape "scenes" for use. When they came back from COVID, they inserted saved scenes taped pre-COVID, and put them into the episode. Frank must have seen that, went "Oh that's smart," and kept it. MESS!

Like, Michael & Sasha scenes were shot October 4, while the Dante & Rocco scenes, which aired same episode, were taped September 24. It's inconsistent AF, and messy.

Van Hansis confirmed his first scenes on GH were with Kirsten Storms' Maxie and taped those in one-day, then went back to NY.... and then came back. Yet, the first scenes aired were with Carly & Josslyn at the Corinthos home.

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1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

No clue how it works; I just know they tape "scenes" for use. When they came back from COVID, they inserted saved scenes taped pre-COVID, and put them into the episode. Frank must have seen that, went "Oh that's smart," and kept it. MESS!

Like, Michael & Sasha scenes were shot October 4, while the Dante & Rocco scenes, which aired same episode, were taped September 24. It's inconsistent AF, and messy.

OOooh, I remember that. That made sense THEN. It does not NOW.

 

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4 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

OOooh, I remember that. That made sense THEN. It does not NOW.

No, it doesn't. And when they take their month-long breaks during the summer... smfh. He's not smart. Him controlling budget is not the reason he should be keeping his job.

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Yep… they’re still twisting the knife.

Poor Alexis. 

Steve Burton was the MVP today. As we saw on Days, it’s always good when he’s un-Jason like and he definitely was today. 

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1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

That was how I felt with the Lucky/Laura reunion. The slapdash style undermines very good actors in scenes that should be easy to wring emotion out of.

And supposedly Mulcahey pushed for longer scenes (and got them) and Valentini/Korte pushed back.

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Just got through 10/30 episode and wow, Van cannot act. Operating room death scenes are hard but that Scooby Doo crew of "actors" in those scenes was laughable.  And the outline and particularly the dialog was god-awful.  I can understand they are saving money by hiring inexperienced (and possibly scab) writers but yesterday's script was laughable.  On top of the fact that almost everyone Frank hires (males in particular) cannot act.  I may not be able to get through today's episode since it's written by the same two "writers" NC and CL.  

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