Which simply means it better be a big enough fuss.

Only a matter of time....   Bye Sam... ten years too late...

8 hours ago, Vee said:

Kelly Monaco differing with management over her story/pairing and making a fuss BTS is not going to get FV fired.

Specifics as to why BM was standing up to Valentini on her behalf is really the only thing not out there. We already know he was let go and them bringing the character back made me think it was something between him and Frank or the show. KeMo was public when Jason was brought back and visibly played against a triangle story. Then both she and Steve made public comments about being different actors now and what worked before was clearly not working anymore. When BM was let go she also publicly complained. And I understand she also walked back some of those comments at private fan events because she pissed off a vocal part of her base.

I do think soap actors should be able to speak up. I also think if the show is going in a direction they do not like, they have a choice to leave or do the work. Especially because what she wanted was to keep sharing scenes with her significant other. That is not a realistic complaint and demand.

The problem is Frank is petty. She has phoned it in in various ways for years. He chose to punish her like he punished others. She deserves some grace through personal traumas. But he clearly stuck her in purgatory until the budget crisis the show and ABC was facing met up with plans they were making for the immediate future of the show and cut a major contract.

Edited October 2, 20241 yr by titan1978

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Specifics as to why BM was standing up to Valentini on her behalf is really the only thing not out there. We already know he was let go and them bringing the character back made me think it was something between him and Frank or the show. KeMo was public when Jason was brought back and visibly played against a triangle story. Then both she and Steve made public comments about being different actors now and what worked before was clearly not working anymore. When BM was let go she also publicly complained. And I understand she also walked back some of those comments at private fan events because she pissed off a vocal part of her base.

I do think soap actors should be able to speak up. I also think if the show is going in a direction they do not like, they have a choice to leave or do the work. Especially because what she wanted was to keep sharing scenes with her significant other. That is not a realistic complaint and demand.

The problem is Frank is petty. She has phoned it in in various ways for years. He chose to punish her like he punished others. She deserves some grace through personal traumas. But he clearly stuck her in purgatory until the budget crisis the show and ABC was facing met up with plans they were making for the immediate future of the show and cut a major contract.

You said it well.

Frank being petty and making realistic budget cuts isn't a fireable offense.  I don't have a high opinion of him and it does seem spiteful, but it's not crazy out of line.

Kelly phoning performances in, refusing storylines, and being difficult for years now is something that can get you fired.  Not to mention Sam is played out and has been for at least a decade.  So while I do give her grace and sympathy due to personal tragedies the decision to cut Sam makes sense.

 

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

So while I do give her grace and sympathy due to personal tragedies the decision to cut Sam makes sense.

I agree; I am sure grace was given, even though it isn't always something that is going to be given, as this is a fast-moving business.

1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

I agree; I am sure grace was given, even though it isn't always something that is going to be given, as this is a fast-moving business.

Especially when, by her own admission, she was being difficult and disagreed with her storylines.  You can't have it all.  It's going to catch up with you.  And it did with Kelly finally.  To me it appears she thought she was untouchable at GH.  It really didn't help she alienated her JaSam fanbase as well which was quite vocal and fairly large.

58 minutes ago, carolineg said:

To me it appears she thought she was untouchable at GH.

We can blame Brian Frons for that one, lol!

3 minutes ago, Khan said:

We can blame Brian Frons for that one, lol!

Her and Courtney.  It's lucky for her that Guza liked Kemo/Sam more than Alicia Willis.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Her and Courtney.  It's lucky for her that Guza liked Kemo/Sam more than Alicia Willis.

NGL, I think we're all lucky for that one.

2 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

NGL, I think we're all lucky for that one.

True facts.  I HATED Courtney and am going to regret typing this, but I think Courtney actually had more long term potential than Sam ever did.  Especially if they used her/AJ/Jason correctly.  Pairing her with Jax and then Nik was a mistake.  The Carly/Jason/Sonny/Courtney quad could have been a lot more exciting if AJ was involved in the mess.  That's probably more a sign of AJ's importance than Courtney's though.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

True facts.  I HATED Courtney and am going to regret typing this, but I think Courtney actually had more long term potential than Sam ever did.  Especially if they used her/AJ/Jason correctly.  Pairing her with Jax and then Nik was a mistake.  The Carly/Jason/Sonny/Courtney quad could have been a lot more exciting if AJ was involved in the mess.  That's probably more a sign of AJ's importance than Courtney's though.

And we all know AJ was not important to the Phelps/Guza regime at all, which is unfortunate.

The thing I keep coming back to is as awful as being fired from a job is, especially after this much time, the central issues that started everything were that she wanted to only be paired with her offscreen partner.

It has never been leaked that Burton and KeMo had a contentious working relationship. It’s not like she was trying to protect herself from a nasty costar. She just wanted to work with her boyfriend. Which is ridiculous.

Many things can be true at one time. This can suck and also not be surprising as far as her performances. And Frank can be a shitty boss and still have a show to produce and talent he can depend on. And Kelly can say whatever she wants about all of it, and deserved better bts treatment. But I think the end result is the same-Sam is off the show because of multiple factors.

57 minutes ago, Khan said:

We can blame Brian Frons for that one, lol!

The true crossover supervillain of ABC daytime.

I still think if Frank hated KM so much he should’ve just permanently recast with Hartley. She plays the role with so much energy, it makes the character feel viable again to me. And truthfully when they’ve used KM this year since PM took over, she’s seemed more alive to me. I can’t understand the thinking of not playing Lulu/Dante/Sam.

Edited October 3, 20241 yr by Antoyne

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

And truthfully when they’ve used KM this year since PM took over, she’s seemed more alive to me. I can’t understand the thinking of not playing Lulu/Dante/Sam.

Edited 1 hour ago by Antoyne

Same. She really did. Even if it was too little, too late.

 

But like you, I don't understand why they didn't play Lulu/Dante/Sam. PM did a good job on making couples no one cared about a lot more important than they were (Dante/Sam, TJ/Molly, Drew/Nina) so it would and could write itself. Especially given what was going on when Lulu went into her coma with her and Dante. 

 

 

8 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I still think if Frank hated KM so much he should’ve just permanently recast with Hartley. She plays the role with so much energy, it makes the character feel viable again to me. And truthfully when they’ve used KM this year since PM took over, she’s seemed more alive to me. I can’t understand the thinking of not playing Lulu/Dante/Sam.

I co-sign wholeheartedly!