8 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Maxie can put a nice blouse on and fix her hair.  And if KS can't do that-there are other actresses that could play Maxie and would do that.  It sounds mean, but KS can't coast along forever half assing it.

Yep, and this is the very definition of half-assing it. I realize she's had health problems, but if GH is indulging her and enabling her because of that, it's wrong.

And I realize it's early, but this "Maxie has money problems" storyline is an eye-roller. Have we ever seen Maxie live to excess? Her place isn't extravagant, and certainly her wardrobe isn't. She doesn't have a drug problem or a gambling addiction.

The "Deceptor isn't making any money and it'll take a few years" doesn't work for me either. So no one there gets paid while they're in the red? That's not how it works. I'm willing to let some things go, but make it make sense.

It's the kid of story that's as meaningful as the Newmans on #YR changing positions and companies.

6 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Yep, and this is the very definition of half-assing it. I realize she's had health problems, but if GH is indulging her and enabling her because of that, it's wrong.

And I realize it's early, but this "Maxie has money problems" storyline is an eye-roller. Have we ever seen Maxie live to excess? Her place isn't extravagant, and certainly her wardrobe isn't. She doesn't have a drug problem or a gambling addiction.

The "Deceptor isn't making any money and it'll take a few years" doesn't work for me either. So no one there gets paid while they're in the red? That's not how it works. I'm willing to let some things go, but make it make sense.

It's the kid of story that's as meaningful as the Newmans on #YR changing positions and companies.

Doesn't Spinelli pay her child support?  She got nothing from Nathan-the police officer/Liesel's son-dying?  Didn't Anna just sublet her place?  I am so confused. Also, I am pretty sure Dante would let her slide on rent for a few months if she needed.   

16 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Doesn't Spinelli pay her child support?  She got nothing from Nathan-the police officer/Liesel's son-dying?  Didn't Anna just sublet her place?  I am so confused. Also, I am pretty sure Dante would let her slide on rent for a few months if she needed.   

All true. I was going to mention child support from Spinelli, but I hadn't considered your other points. Then they gave Felicia dialogue that sounded like it was written by Chat GTP for a Forbes website article. So bad.

47 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Yep, and this is the very definition of half-assing it. I realize she's had health problems, but if GH is indulging her and enabling her because of that, it's wrong.

 

Frankly, right now, and lately, I have not thought that Maxie looks bad. I've thought that she now looks better than she did even a year ago. There's no problem with the brows now. Her hair isn't greasy. She just looks ordinary in her clothes instead of it looking like something is wrong.

And I thought I had said this before, ... but heck maybe I did not. The show doesn't push the point in the way y'all are thinking they should because they're afraid of her reaction. Now you're gonna say that's dysfunctional. And, of course, you're right. Being right about it is as far as that will go. 

Now I am delighted that SoapHub has awarded a new status. They're calling it November Powerhouse Performer & of course for GH Finola got it. 

21 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

All true. I was going to mention child support from Spinelli, but I hadn't considered your other points. Then they gave Felicia dialogue that sounded like it was written by Chat GTP for a Forbes website article. So bad.

I don't mind the story-it just doesn't make sense.  Maxie should have multiple income streams outside of Deception plus she's worked her entire adult life.  It reminds me of that story that was dropped years ago where Liz blew all her money on a bad investment lol.

1 minute ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Frankly, right now, and lately, I have not thought that Maxie looks bad. I've thought that she now looks better than she did even a year ago. There's no problem with the brows now. Her hair isn't greasy. She just looks ordinary in her clothes instead of it looking like something is wrong.

And I thought I had said this before, ... but heck maybe I did not. The show doesn't push the point in the way y'all are thinking they should because they're afraid of her reaction. Now you're gonna say that's dysfunctional. And, of course, you're right. Being right about it is as far as that will go. 

Now I am delighted that SoapHub has awarded a new status. They're calling it November Powerhouse Performer & of course for GH Finola got it. 

An actor/actress shouldn't be holding the show hostage.  The show shouldn't be afraid of her reaction over something relatively minor.  There are professional ways to frame this sort of discussion with KS without making her feel bad.  

And, yes, Maxie's hair does look greasy a lot.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

An actor/actress shouldn't be holding the show hostage.  The show shouldn't be afraid of her reaction over something relatively minor.  There are professional ways to frame this sort of discussion with KS without making her feel bad.  

I have only 2 more things to say. 

1. You're preaching to the choir. Of course I agree about dealing wtih personnel. 

2. Don't shoot the messenger. 

1 minute ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

I have only 2 more things to say. 

1. You're preaching to the choir. Of course I agree about dealing wtih personnel. 

2. Don't shoot the messenger. 

Oh, I am not trying to shoot the messenger here.  I appreciate the insight.  I hope it didn't come across as hostile.

Anyhow, it's just frustrating to me that the show can't have an honest conversation with KS.  She's gained weight.  We know that, they know that, she knows that.  Oh well.  People gain weight.  Instead of trying to work around it so she looks good the show seems to be ignoring the problem and that makes it more obvious.  I don't begrudge KS for not being a size 0 anymore, but I do have issues with her not fully embracing the character of Maxie and just playing herself.

2 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

In what universe should an actor have the call about the character's dress.

Days of Our Lives, all the time.

7 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Days of Our Lives, all the time.

Lol.  They can't afford to buy a wardrobe for their cast, so I'll give them a pass.  And no one looks totally out of character usually.

I honestly think the show is just happy that Kirsten seems (supposedly) more mentally and emotionally well and isn't taking long breaks anymore (for reasons that vary depending on who you ask) that they don't want to try for anything more.

She was unwell for a long time. She still looks wrung out to me and I think both the character and actor need a long break from the show.

25 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Oh, I am not trying to shoot the messenger here.  I appreciate the insight.  I hope it didn't come across as hostile.

Oh, no, no hostility. We are all totally cool. However, we share this particular frustration and so does my special friend. SUCKS! 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Vee said:

I honestly think the show is just happy that Kirsten seems (supposedly) more mentally and emotionally well and isn't taking long breaks anymore (for reasons that vary depending on who you ask) that they don't want to try for anything more.

She was unwell for a long time. She still looks wrung out to me and I think both the character and actor need a long break from the show.

Here is wisdom. 

You know I am happy KS seems to be in a better place and healthier.   I just think at some point you need to stop coddling the actress.  It's becoming a liability and I don't think more "stable" actors would be allowed such grace.  It's GH's choice and I respect that.  I still don't think asking her to wear a flattering blouse instead of a men's flannel is a big ask, but I don't know her trauma or her issues.  It's probably a slippery slope and with TC passing I don't want to judge any sort of mental issues.  So I'll shut up about it lol.  

9 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

Instead of everyone pretending like she looks the same as she did in 2008, it would be really interesting if they dealt on-screen with how she looks now, especially from her point of view. The show and those involved probably couldn't handle something that real though.

I think it's a matter of her going out with wardrobe to find fashionable items that work for the figure she has now, and, suits Maxie, too. I look at the character of Terese Willis on Neighbours, and use that as an example what should have been done with Maxie.

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

You know I am happy KS seems to be in a better place and healthier.   I just think at some point you need to stop coddling the actress. 

I totally agree. But I think the easiest solution is what needed to be done several years ago: Write her and Maxie out.

2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I think it's a matter of her going out with wardrobe to find fashionable items that work for the figure she has now, and, suits Maxie, too. I look at the character of Terese Willis on Neighbours, and use that as an example what should have been done with Maxie.

The UK/European/Aussie soaps don't seem nearly as afraid of heavier women - Neighbours has several, I believe, or at least mature ones. Eastenders has Kat and Sharon whose weight has fluctuated. It's the US that has difficulty. But none of those foreign soaps dress their women the way Genie is dressed, namely terribly yet again. Anyway, this feels tacky to itemize but there you are.

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20 minutes ago, Vee said:

The UK/European/Aussie soaps don't seem nearly as afraid of heavier women - Neighbours has several, I believe, or at least mature ones. Eastenders has Kat and Sharon whose weight has fluctuated. It's the US that has difficulty. But none of those foreign soaps dress their women the way Genie is dressed, namely terribly yet again. Anyway, this feels tacky to itemize but there you are.

I completely agree but, again, I do think the talent is selecting what they want to wear. If I recall, the last genuine time I feel like a woman on American daytime who was dressed by wardrobe when their weight did up was Melody Thomas Scott, although, her wardrobe always crossed with Nikki and vice versa. But she was never dressed, and I hate to use this word: frumpy, in the way I feel like the women of General Hospital have been dressed.