It's too soon to tell about this but I do think the way the 60 Minutes/View interviews were spun hurt her and so much talk about her only being negative (while Trump is fawned over for a fake fry cooking) does push a bad narrative in these final weeks. I wish Democrats would just stop going to the corporate media.

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

It's too soon to tell about this but I do think the way the 60 Minutes/View interviews were spun hurt her and so much talk about her only being negative (while Trump is fawned over for a fake fry cooking) does push a bad narrative in these final weeks. I wish Democrats would just stop going to the corporate media.

I don't think most voters cared about or disliked those two appearances - nitpicking them was a media obsession but that's spin that I do not see evidence of having translated at all to the public, and I don't consider naturally tightening polls a part of that. It's only the media fawning over the McDonald's op.

Meanwhile:

 

Edited October 24, 20241 yr by Vee

Whoa.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/upld/thumbnails/en/information/nhkworld_chinese_language_radio_news_bulletin_20241011.pdf

9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I agree - that's why I said the most cynical approach. It's just sickening, playing into the epitome of misogynoir. I don't think that is how most black male voters base their decisions, but I do think a lot of time and money is going into trying to steer to that type of approach (sexist slurs, going on about Harris lying about her race, about being Christian, and so on). It's a win-win for the GOP and their moneymen, because if there is a big movement to Trump, this is what will be cited as the cause, which will lead to even more division among an already breaking coalition of Democratic voters. 

Some of the comments could be blackfishing, but many seem to be real, albeit some are grifters, or Astead Herndon.

My point is that the very community that these tactics are supposed to reach don’t care to respond, this is not 2016.

Owens and Brown are jokes that nobody within the community take seriously.

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Whoa.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/upld/thumbnails/en/information/nhkworld_chinese_language_radio_news_bulletin_20241011.pdf

My point is that the very community that these tactics are supposed to reach don’t care to respond, this is not 2016.

Owens and Brown are jokes that nobody within the community take seriously.

I think that was what I have thought. I trust for example, Khan's points. What I don't trust is the media and the cynics.  By the way, and before we keep buying into this garbage that actually indicates Black voters can be easily conned, let me remind people, who were the ones who have stepped up to save this democracy time and time again. Certainly not white voters. It was black voters in South Carolina who led the charge for Joe Biden. I still to this day believe black voters are the most astute and pragmatic, as it comes to voting. Moreso than any other voting group.  

Speaking of Black voters, I just voted Blue all the way through!

Wannabe oligarch who wants to control the content of the newspaper he managed to acquire. Apparently, he was born in South Africa. No, not that wannabe oligarch.

LA Times editorials editor quits after billionaire owner reportedly blocked paper from endorsing Harris

 

21 hours ago, Vee said:

I don't think Khan is saying it's definitely happening. He just gets the mindset.

Exactly.

Again, I don't want to suggest this is true for ALL Black men, because we aren't any more of a monolith than any other group in this country.  However, it's been my experience that many Black men are drawn to men like Donald Trump, because, to them, men like Donald Trump project strength and self-assuredness, which is more important to them than morality, or lack thereof.

Black men, in general, are terribly concerned with emasculation.  After all, much of hip hop/gangsta rap culture has been built on images of Black men wielding power - not just physical and financial power, but even sexual power as well, to the point of misogyny.  Ergo, Black men don't want a leader who will appear "soft" or "sissy" to the rest of the world, or else they're afraid they'll get "punked" by their enemies.

From the very beginning of Kamala Harris' campaign, I said it would be difficult, if not impossible, for her to win over Black men, because, when it comes to the notion of ANY woman being in charge, let alone a woman of color, Black men are less progressive than even our white, male counterparts.  Even though most of us have been raised by women who had to work (long before feminism, I might add) in order to keep the family afloat financially, we still hold onto the outdated, conservative belief that it is the man, and not the woman, who is the head of the household - or, in this case, the country.  Such beliefs are one of the outcomes of the African-American community revolving around "the church," and it isn't likely to change anytime soon.

Credit to Charlamagne: He makes Anderson Cooper lose his cool here and puts him and CNN on the spot.

Even better:

 

Edited October 25, 20241 yr by Vee

More LA Times blowback:

 

More here.

Oh, just admit it, Anderson: every time you, along with every other journalist, fail to have real discussions about Donald Trump, you fail the American public; and you fail the American public, because all you give a damn about is ratings.

17 minutes ago, Khan said:

Oh, just admit it, Anderson: every time you, along with every other journalist, fail to have real discussions about Donald Trump, you fail the American public; and you fail the American public, because all you give a damn about is ratings.

The triple screen with the extremely white Anderson poleaxed between him and Angela Rye while sputtering a bit was priceless, I'll say that.

I actually don't think Anderson wants Trump to win; I suspect he detests him. But Anderson, like most media heavyweights, has internalized the idea that we must hold all Dems to a double standard (as Dana Bash admitted last night and endorsed, incredibly) vs. Trump and that only Dems must be held critically to the fire as responsible politicians while Republicans skate. It's the old holdover 'punch the hippies' mentality - Dems must always 'prove' they're serious with more and more detail even when they offer plenty (as Harris has), while also always fending off GOP talking points.

Edited October 25, 20241 yr by Vee

Charlemagne, not my favorite but he made several salient points and I appreciated his relentlessness about driving those points repeatedly. The fact that he had Anderson Cooper frazzled was kind of the cherry on top of the parfait.

Another aspect that I don’t think media is up to having an honest discussion about is how these billionaires are wrecking these legacy newspapers for the benefit of their own personal interests.