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Carlivati vs Logan!

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The reason GH is on the air is all Frank not Ron

You give frank 5000 and he brings back change. Frank knows how to produce and direct

Ron is way past burnt out

What about bringing Racina back

Frank is a terrible producer! All that shaky camera footage his first year on GH, bad lighting, horrible sets, terrible directing.

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I think Ron is burned out. He's been head writer for 3 and half years. There was a time at OLTL he crashed it was right at 3 year mark it wasn't until the end he recouped. GH can easily fix the problem it just needs new head writers.

Burned out is for those who actually did something. A rat running in a wheel could be burned out but did he really accomplish anything?

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Frank is a terrible producer! All that shaky camera footage his first year on GH, bad lighting, horrible sets, terrible directing.

Frank is horrible as hell and has only twice the talent of moRon, which puts him at about negative 10 million!

moRon didnt hire all these damn newbies, and yes, the production is an embarrassment!

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Frank is horrible as hell and has only twice the talent of moRon, which puts him at about negative 10 million!

moRon didnt hire all these damn newbies, and yes, the production is an embarrassment!

Half the important scenes on GH get left on the editing room floor. Editing is part of the EP's job so that's all on him.

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I know some have said Frank is responsible for the consistently poor casting. And the show's editing is also horrific.

The show looks like sloppy chit too. The lighting is horrid and harsh, everyone looks awful.

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Half the important scenes on GH get left on the editing room floor. Editing is part of the EP's job so that's all on him.

Exactly! Y'all know I would NEVER cape for moRon, but when I see folks blaming him for this garbage show, I remind them that moRon is not in charge.

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Frank is a skilled budgeter, but he often goes for "peppy and cheap" for production, and "faster, more intense" in terms of any kind of directing. He also likes to direct and is allegedly very hands-on, even when he's not actively directing an episode. The word has always been that he likes it big, but I don't know how true that is, I only know what I watch.

I know he instituted the shorter and shorter scenes starting on OLTL around late 2007. At first the editing would dovetail carefully, knitting themes or stories together, but now it usually goes off of paralleling lines of dialogue or story turns, and is more about effect than telling stories with any kind of reasonable pace. Supposedly it was FV who made the call that the youth demos would go up with shorter, snappier scenes, and for a long time their numbers allegedly bore that out. But I never liked it, and now the editing is merely too clever while the actual scenes are too short, the stories too rushed and the characters too superficial and thin. The bloom is off the rose.

There have been rumors that Frank - who cast a lot at OLTL - has stepped in a lot at GH vs. Mark Teschner. Given NuDillon, Nathan, etc. I can certainly believe it (and Ryan Paevey's a charming guy, but he should not have this level of story).

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The show looked more expensive when Jill Phelps was exec producer. I will say this about Jill she makes any show look very expensive. Frank I don't see going anywhere he's loved by ABC and the cast loves him. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Gary Tomlin joins GH. If Frank left I guarantee Gary would be the new EP

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Until Monty though the vision of the show was the HW, and the producer executed that vision. Or worked in partnership. She may have had total control, but GH even in the 1980's heyday was at its best when she had strong writers.

Let's remember for all Frank did right at OLTL and GH, he also was the producer during Higley's terrible run. He is a great director and a competent producer that works hard and takes charge. But he is no visionary and he lacks Riche's class and intelligence. She would never produce emotionally powerful work and think a piece of fluff represents the best of her season, which Frank does every year for the emmys

I don't care what Frank did at OLTL. He's not doing a good job at GH. Even Gloria Monty got axed on her second run at GH because she wasn't doing a good job. I don't recognize or like this show. It's a hodge podge of out of work soap actors portraying characters that absolutely have no depth. There is no respect for history or even common sense. It's time for a new show runner. Or cancel the soap. It's beyond time.

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Frank is a skilled budgeter, but he often goes for "peppy and cheap" for production, and "faster, more intense" in terms of any kind of directing. He also likes to direct and is allegedly very hands-on, even when he's not actively directing an episode. The word has always been that he likes it big, but I don't know how true that is, I only know what I watch.

I know he instituted the shorter and shorter scenes starting on OLTL around late 2007. At first the editing would dovetail carefully, knitting themes or stories together, but now it usually goes off of paralleling lines of dialogue or story turns, and is more about effect than telling stories with any kind of reasonable pace. Supposedly it was FV who made the call that the youth demos would go up with shorter, snappier scenes, and for a long time their numbers allegedly bore that out. But I never liked it, and now the editing is merely too clever while the actual scenes are too short, the stories too rushed and the characters too superficial and thin. The bloom is off the rose.

There have been rumors that Frank - who cast a lot at OLTL - has stepped in a lot at GH vs. Mark Teschner. Given NuDillon, Nathan, etc. I can certainly believe it (and Ryan Paevey's a charming guy, but he should not have this level of story).

RUBBISH! A skilled budgeter can buy at a bargain w/out looking cheap. GH looks cheap. GH is cheap! Frank squanders budget money to hire friends and men in tight pants when they add nothing to the show. Keep stanning for that rancid duo! His job is to produce a quality show and keep his HW in line. NONE of that is happening!

Both can go and take that maggot, Varni, with them!

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The thing is Chit is Frank is beloved by cast and crew. He's the hottie EP who they love. He won't go anywhere and honestly I don't see Ron going anywhere. We really gave to hope a Co head writer will be named.

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Frank's primary budgeting skill involves 'keeping the show on the air,' not necessarily making it look good while doing so. (Though it looks better than DAYS)

Keep stanning for that rancid duo!

As always, Chit, there is a vast gulf of difference between 'stanning' for these people vs. evaluating their massive issues rationally as opposed to hyperbolically. There's plenty they [!@#$%^&*] up without my having to invent anything. If we can't acknowledge either what they did right in the past or the issues surrounding them, we can't properly damn them for what they've done all by themselves.

Frank kept his shows on the air when ABC wanted them dead, and he did so through careful cost-cutting - that's a fact. He also turned them cheap, peppy, loud and deeply messy, superficial and scattershot over time - that's a fact. These facts are not mutually exclusive, they're just not always convenient. None of that means I think the way he's currently producing GH is right.

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The thing is Chit is Frank is beloved by cast and crew. He's the hottie EP who they love. He won't go anywhere and honestly I don't see Ron going anywhere. We really gave to hope a Co head writer will be named.

He hasn't been any type of hottie since sometime last decade. And I doubt they give a [!@#$%^&*] about him. If he goes they'd just hope they stay on the air.

The show looked more expensive when Jill Phelps was exec producer.

That's partly because they had a bigger budget, but Frank does make shows look cheap and tacky. Much like his casting and choice in writers.

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That's partly because they had a bigger budget

That's also because Frons let them draw on funds earmarked for OLTL back then, to cover Jill's overages.

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That's also because Frons let them draw on funds earmarked for OLTL back then, to cover Jill's overages.

I don't believe that message board rumor. It doesn't make plausible sense.

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