PP didnt fail. They just realized that after watching AMC & OLTL film their first cycles a change needed to be made so they looked at the viewership and saw people watch daily soaps 2-3 days a week. That has been so for YEARS. So they decided to air both soaps twice weekly and reduce each shows order to 110 episodes of original and combine more OLTL & More AMC into one recap show on Fridays IMO maybe starting the shows at two episodes a week would have been better, However, there is no conspiracy. This is trial and error. They tried to produce 168 episodes of both shows but when U have 18hours plus days and up to 150 pages to film that costs a lot of money. This is PP/TOLN trying to figure the best model that can bring the best quality episodes to audience as well as be the most profitable fo PP/TOLN/HULU/Itunes. Nothing wrong there So this year should be looked as a learning curve & adjustments have been made & shouldnt have been a surprise Lets just support the shows and PP so they can get this all figured out In the long run this will benefit to the longevity of these shows and can even help obtain higher episode orders each year. IMO its a win-win

This is the most comforting, rational thing I've read all day. All we can do at this point is keep watching.

I think whatever happens, this was always going to be a rocky period. These shows came together and flew off the carrier very, very, very quickly and have been running full tilt on massive overtime BTS to get on air in record time. This is a corporate team that has also never done this before and committed to this kind of daily grind. The old network machines have been ancient siege engines, in place for decades upon decades - they knew how to do this kind of meat grinder that makes the soaps year in and year out, and even if he's miffed at me I think even Khan would agree that they also knew it so very well enough that they know exactly how to slowly but surely shortchange and marginalize that process and the output down to nothing. This, OTOH, is a project where the people are trying to make it the best they can be and put it out every week. I don't know if that's a lost art or not, but they're definitely trying to resurrect it.

I think they should run them three days a week and let them both run on Fridays. Or, I think that if they have to be two days a week they should each be an hour (or at least two episodes packaged together) for both days. But I can't fault them for the bumps in the road. This was going to be a massive, difficult, bumpy undertaking no matter who was doing it. Unless they were just back on ABC in the hands of Valentini - who might have kept the trains running on time, sure, but honestly, at this point, I just really don't want to watch a daytime world where everything is being produced via The World According To Ron & Frank. I think that would be a profound imaginative poverty. For all the bile projected at them on the board they do have their skills, and they are good at certain things - Frank is particularly good at simply cranking a show out - but it can't be like that for everything and everyone, and honestly I think Frank's energy for it has become very regimented and cold. That's how these shows lost their identities and colors in the first place, under the banner of Brian Frons as one for all. I still watch GH, and for all the madness on it right now I enjoy a fair bit of it even now. And I like that these shows are different, I like that AMC and OLTL feel not only different from network soaps, but also different from each other. And I don't want to go back to a same-y assembly line. So am I willing to drive down the cobblestone roads and hope for the best for now? Sure. Hasn't everyone with a new show?

Edited May 17, 201312 yr by Vee

The episodes have been moving fairly fast, so I don't think less will happen plot-wise in 2 episodes than would happen on a TV soap in 5 episodes. But it means a lot of character moments could eventually stop being written or could be edited out.

Well my point was about AMC had already produced at least 3 more weeks of episodes to air but now those will be dragged out to air over 6 weeks. It will drag since it was meant for 4 episode a week format.

And this is essentially watching a primetime soap. I'm not here to watch primetime soaps.

Thank you for your take on it, Vee, you make me feel better.

And the ironically apt metaphor in more ways than one, or perhaps intentional symbolism, of you mentioning a cobblestoned road -- the titular Coronation Street is a cobblestoned road.

Days22, my point was that even 2 episodes in the current format already moves a lot, so it won't feel dragged out if 3 weeks becomes 6 weeks. The 3 weeks of 4 episodes a week already packs in as much story as 6 weeks of a TV soap. So if it really ends up taking place over 6 weeks, it will just be that.

Edited May 17, 201312 yr by jfung79

Days22, my point was that even 2 episodes in the current format already moves a lot, so it won't feel dragged out if 3 weeks becomes 6 weeks. The 3 weeks of 4 episodes a week already packs in as much story as 6 weeks of a TV soap.

I know. And in the future it will be better.

But no you're wrong. The AMC stories have not been thaaat fast. Especially Cass who now will still be locked up for the next 6-8 weeks.

Edited May 17, 201312 yr by Days22

I know. And in the future it will be better.

But no you're wrong. The AMC stories have not been thaaat fast. Especially Cass who now will still be locked up for the next 6-8 weeks.

I agree, AMC has been slower. It was more OLTL I was thinking of with the faster pace already.

I agree, AMC has been slower. It was more OLTL I was thinking of with the faster pace already.

Yeah I think with this change OLTL is in better shape all around. Which is BS to AMC which has been getting more views and buys.

I think they're both in good shape. I think the stories that need to move faster on AMC - Cara's secret and Cassandra - are doing so. I always figured AMC to be an easier-paced show, myself. But I'm pretty much turning into the Prospect Park propaganda organ (emphasis on organ), so w/e.

Cady McClain

Seriously, you think I'm full of [!@#$%^&*]? After everything I've done for the show, for you- the fans? Wow.

Why does it sound like 220 is the episode total they agreed to produce for both shows ever? Was that in the original contract? Sigh, I hope we're not done for after those are up.

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• Forgive me for BELIEVING in the show, for having FAITH in people I've known behind the scenes for over 20 years, for fighting tooth and nail to make every bit of this show both loving and powerful from the inside out. If you think that I don't "get it" then I you don't know me at all.

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• It seems to me some people just want to hate and lash out. I can have compassion on a certain level but this show isn't being cancelled, it's being honed like a fine racehorse to be fast and powerful and beautiful.

Who the hell is giving Cady McClain trouble?

Why does it sound like 220 is the episode total they agreed to produce for both shows ever? Was that in the original contract? Sigh, I hope we're not done for after those are up.

I think that's the original deal they had. Assuming for the moment the shows remain profitable, the deal would then re-up.

Cady McClain

Seriously, you think I'm full of [!@#$%^&*]? After everything I've done for the show, for you- the fans? Wow.

that's go to have been the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.. This is what I'm talking about, this selfish, arrogant self-entitled view most soap fans have is sickening

Oh, Cady. Twitterverse is a tricky mistress. Crazies and psychos abound! Best for Cady to not engage with them on a news day like today.

So, I had a meltdown earlier...but I'm seriously OK with it now. If the shows are cancelled, fine. If not, then I still get to see them twice a week. That's all I'm saying on that matter.