GH: OLTL 3 (ACTORS) return

[VirginiaHamilton]

I'd be bitter, too, if Cartini thought nothing of shitting over a beloved pairing (and my character) in order to prop a non-factor. The fact that she hasn't been as vocal about Todd's pairing with the bipolar banshee (much as I loathed them [and especially her] together) makes it clear that her issue was never about Todd moving on; rather, it's about Cartini's disrespect towards T&B/Blair/T&B fans/Blair fans by expecting viewers to take the fuckery that aired on GH as gospel. When it comes to this issue, I'm squarely on Team KdP and I hope that she continues to call Cartini out for this sh!t.

[ChitHappens]

Sorry, but that's not what KDP is doing. Unfortunately, she sees no value in herself or Blair and believes that she is only worth anything in this industry if attached to Roger. KDP is a great actress, but that is being lost because she can't get past her fictional husband. Everyone has moved past this except her. Why is it fuckery? How many loves has Blair had? And how is she taking FRon to task exactly? By KDP pleading with Todd to return to her? Yeah, ok.

Let's look at another example. Your girl Vanessa. She took her fight over S&B to Guza (it was stupid, but she aimed at the right person). However, in her personal life, she is not crusading to have her "husband", Sonny Corinthos, return to her. In fact, she and KSu have a really good relationship - none of that passive/aggressive chit (with LW) like KDP does.

Why anyone would want their character stuck in the same lane indefinitely is completely beyond me! Insane!

[TeamEric]

KDP and KA suffer from the same malady known as fangurlitis. They are creepily obsessed with their character's couplings KA with Sole and and then her OTT Mistarr pimping been far too out of hand. Get a grip and act professionally.

[VirginiaHamilton]

That's precisely what KdP is doing and she's been doing it since Cartini showed their asses with this. She's getting raked over the coals because she isn't drinking the Turdly Kool-Aid that they expect her and other fans to guzzle down and I'm glad that she's standing up for what's right.

Don't even get me started on the way VM was dragged on the soap internets for speaking up on behalf of S&B and their fans because I can write a novel about that. Folks called her all kinds of sh!t throughout her last stint because she wasn't down with whatever bullshit showkiller Guza was trying to hurl at us and had the cojones to speak on it. The same way that some folks are being hypocritical about KdP now is the same way that they were full of caca about VM 2-3 years ago.

Like I said before, it's A-OK if certain actors speak up against shitty writing, but others get crucified for questioning it? No ma'am, I can't get with that double standard at all.

[NothinButAttitude]

And let the clusterfuck begin in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1

[Vee]

That's news to me, Jack, and to reality at large, since I can point to a slew of recent occasions of her repeatedly complimenting the show, Todd and Carly, RH and LW - and no actual bashing or jealousy whatsoever. What you two are claiming exists simply doesn't. It's your projection onto it. What I'm claiming exists actually does. It's a quirk I have.

I can repost them if you'd like, but the fact remains, Kassie DePaiva isn't the gorgon you're making her out to be. She was candid about missing the character and the soaps on social media, which makes her too easy a target, perhaps, but she was not exactly frothing with jealousy and raging mad. So this whole "obsession" thing is just a tacky way to bash an actress who's always been too easy a mark when she hasn't really done anything objectionable. Other than the singing. And I've never liked easy marks, let alone bullying. Taking shots at KDP for putting herself out there with the singing, or with promoting anything and everything the network ever wanted her to promote, has always been too easy - and what did she do to deserve it?

[Vee]

I didn't see that in Fairman's article, and I'm still not seeing any actual proof of these claims. Other than you, personally, reading into it that Fairman is bashing the actors - which is not how I took it - and that because you think that writer is bashing the actors, then somehow A leads to X and Prospect Park is forcing unwilling actors to be there. But that's not actual logic, or fact. It makes no sense anywhere other than your mind.

I get that people around here love to throw their weight around with hyperbole and say it's "obvious!!!" that something is happening, until it isn't or doesn't. But just because something takes on a degree of groupthink which excites you and gets you energized about a subject doesn't actually make it true. The whole "Prospect Park is forcing these poor actors to do this!" spin - which came out of ABC, nowhere else, and let's not pretend the blogosphere didn't get it fed to them by the network - fell apart when two of the actors didn't actually do it and one apparently happily did.

[TeamEric]

Not our "two" projections. She was called out by three soap bloggers too over on twitter for her whining about Tarly. That's a fact. It happened. Deal.

She's been mostly professional and nice to LW but lordie KDP retweeting fan gurl pics comparing LW and KDP's hair cuts was pretty childish of her.

[Vee]

Yeah, I saw a couple of those and they were both way off the mark. In case you haven't noticed, most "soap bloggers" aren't the picture of mental health these days. Those guys are all about their own bias and histrionics. It's part of the reason I stay off social media. People who think they're "journalists" suddenly also think they're tastemakers. But journalism doesn't really exist anymore.

I think she retweeted someone else's tweet simply to reply to them. I didn't take it as a personal attack.

[juppiter]

I doubt the actors want to go to OLTL. No way PP can afford to pay them as much as ABC.

[juniorz1]

Dumbest thing I've read all day. You've GOT to be kidding me.

Are Michael Easton, Roger Howarth, and Kristen F-ING Alderson really worth all this?

How about giving us more Heather, a real story for Nancy Lee Grahn....you know, people who can ACT and the audience actually likes? Bring back Rick Hearst. Or Sharon Wyatt. Or Scott Thompson Baker's Colton Shore (I LOVE me some STB!)

This is just flat out saying that the soap audience is so dumb and so infatuated with the actors that we don't care who they're playing.

The sad thing is that they got themselves into this mess by bringing these unwanted OLTL characters over in the first place. If they wanted Todd, Starr, and John McBain so badly, then why the F didn't they just leave OLTL on the air?

God, just when GH was leading the pack of the soap revival, they go and make a boneheaded decision like this. Has Brian Frons come back to the network??!?

Oh, and out of curiosity, that Katie Couric crapfest is tanking, right?

[Cheap21]

well its not like it was RC nor FV's decision to get rid of it

[JackPeyton]

While I normally don't reply to you, because its impossible to converse with someone who believes hg are superior and always right, I do have to say its not a random two person perfection. Not that you care though, as anyone's viewpoint or thought that differs even slightly from the gospel of Vee is bought and paid for by whatever the opposite side is. She consistently posted on twitter - through RT's, favorites and links to boards/blogs/etc - negative things about Fodd being paired with Carly. She supported and encouraged her fans bashing and attacking of Wright via these same tactics - favoriting them, RTs, etc - and hole she would compliment GH it was usually followed up with a plea for them to reunite Todd & Blair. KDP is a fine actress. From the little I've interacted with her in person and stories I've heard if her SG seems lovely. But I hunk she has come off and dealt with this entire situation horridly. Now please, go ahead and preach to me about how wrong I am for having this opinion. Can't wait.

[Vee]

I don't at all believe that, no. And I don't know what a two-person perfection it is.

...What?

What? Where? I've seen most of that [!@#$%^&*] and I don't remember anything of the sort. I remember her replying to ardent fans, and occasionally telling the crazier ones to cool it with the personal attacks. I don't remember any stream of vitriol or links to slanderous smears, and I don't see you offering them up.

She certainly did not. She actively discouraged that, and I can prove it. And we all need to remember that an actor simply replying to a fan who might have, at another point, on their own, made a crass or inappropriate comment about Laura or any other actor does not mean that an actor is tacitly endorsing the fan's other activities. Unlike us crazed fans on SON, most of these soap actors are not omniscient and prowling the Net 24-7 and screening all their fans. Though I sometimes think they should.

It's not all about us on the Internet, and it's certainly not all about us for the actors, no matter how often they may smile and nod and be polite. KDP probably doesn't have a clue of a fraction of what you're talking about.

[ChitHappens]

JP,

"She consistently posted on twitter - through RT's, favorites and links to boards/blogs/etc - negative things about Fodd being paired with Carly. She supported and encouraged her fans bashing and attacking of Wright via these same tactics - favoriting them, RTs, etc - and hole she would compliment GH it was usually followed up with a plea for them to reunite Todd & Blair".

Bingo! When you can post "did they show Todd and Carly today" and a fans says yes, and she tweets "Phew, glad I missed that" and then follow it up with how wonderful she thinks Todd and Carly are is pathetically transparent! When KDP began this never ending tirade, her fans went straight for LW as she knew they would, but she continues? She's disgusting!