Members rhinohide Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 I agree. That's not what PP is doing. But if they did? Would it really be so horrible, or different than what FrankenRon did to OLTL? Craptini ignored years of history and the cliffhangers on OLTL to prop the lame garbage on GH. Trashed everything they wrote on OLTL, erased it and made it irrelevant. So why should PP treat what happened for a few months on GH more respectfully? ???? Patrick Gibbons? The 11yearold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allmc2008 Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yes. Everyone has the right to speak his/her mind!! Just because he's young doesn't mean he is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think some of what they did was very stupid. I think another part of it was an old, clever tradition, dating back to transplanting characters from Somerset to AW or back and forth, or Sheila Carter on Y&R and B&B, or Debbi Morgan touring the ABC soaps as Angie, or other shows. Sometimes it was a flop and sometimes it was very successful, and in terms of the OLTL audience who had had their show cancelled I thought it was at least initially a very smart tactical move to hook their audience. It got me watching GH again, and I stayed for the rest of the show as it began to change. I know I wasn't alone. I don't fault them for crafting new stories and romances for the OLTL characters on a new show. I took issue with some of how they did it, and how they ultimately began to shrug off some character history, but I think overall the crossovers were a success. At the same time, though, you can lift those characters out of GH again with no problem. No one's truly missing them during this anniversary, and GH is all about GH again. I tend to roll with the punches when it comes to couples. What counts more for me than couples coming together or falling apart is insulting my intelligence or totally breaking a character. Compared to watching one Todd rape Marty again, watching another single, lonely Todd bed a consenting, not brain-damaged woman who is reminiscent of his past loves doesn't remotely register with me. The problem was when they gave them ancient OLTL scripts and had Todd rehash old lines he has used a dozen times. He has racked up at least five or six "only friends" in his history of varying age, shape, size and gender. That was when I rolled my eyes. But again, it's not anywhere near the rapemance for me. It's something that's easy to allow any character to walk away from. It's just another romance. I can live with it. What's most important to me, though, is that the taking back of the OLTL characters from GH restores OLTL's primacy under a new creative regime. Too many people out there are under the impression that Ron and Frank are the face of OLTL, that they own OLTL, that they're the spiritual and intellectual gatekeepers of the show, the franchise, the characters and its history - and the crossovers, for good or ill, reinforced that premise. The idea was that they were the stewards and they were going to wield all the OLTL material as they saw fit, because who else? Well, OLTL is bigger than any two men. I thought they did a lot for OLTL, I believe they love that show, I think they do a lot for GH and I think they have done a lot of good for daytime - a genre they truly love - in the past couple years. But their flaws and weaknesses are also more visible now than ever before, and while I still very much enjoy their show, I think that as their reputation has skryocketed their standard for quality has slipped. Too many people believe they can do no wrong, that OLTL is 'theirs' and that no one should presume to take back the show without them. That's bullshit. As good as they can be, as much as I admire the good they've done and can do, I think OLTL needed a real change, and people need to understand that the future isn't only in the hands of these two guys. It was time for a hard left. And while I am not opposed to future crossovers, I think that removing the OLTL characters from long runs on GH only under Ron and Frank's purview - cutting that cord - is the most important thing here. It was the right thing to do at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hsfolk Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 PP probably didn't want GH to kill off Victor Lord III or Cole & Hope, I'm willing to accept them still being alive since I rarely caught what went on at GH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Jared Kaplan @JaredKaplan8h Just met THE @robinstrasser! Awesome! Dorian IS BACK! #Dorian #OLTL #OLTLisBack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrishntr Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 There is a message up at http://erikaslezak.com from Erika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 This has always been my argument. I raise a "hell yeah!" and give a slow clap to the majority of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlexElizabeth Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Interesting. Brian K Wilson @BrianKWilson1 13h @trevorstjohn....Trevor nice to hang with you tonight in Stamford...I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks for letting us know about Erika's message. I was so worried about Robin, I was afraid she'd be on the set in an iron lung. She looked well, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Very! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 If Trevor aint filming OLTL, I wonder what he would be doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~bl~ Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 Brian K. Wilson could be anybody. Erika's message didn't really tell us anything we didn't know, but that's to be expected. Since she has a fan mail PO box I wonder if anyone will write her in CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 @PatrickJGibbons Holy moly..The new studio is HUGE!!! #OLTL #ProspectPark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 What the he77 is a credit card professional? The guy has like 5 tweets. Follows 10 people which is required to register. Looks dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 23, 2013 Members Share Posted March 23, 2013 I still think she should be in bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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