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AMC: The Prospect Park Era (old production thread)

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Didn't Susan Lucci always say she wished she could go blonde for real? Girl could never really pull it off, though.

Yes. Susan has said repeatedly that she always wanted to be a blonde, largely in part because the blonde-haired, blue-eyed WASP-y goddess was what was considered beautiful when she was growing up - she was told in starting out her career that it was a pity she wasn't a blonde, that she'd have a tough time because she looked "too ethnic" etc. In that unauthorized bio someone wrote of her in the 80s, there's a great quote from AMC's then-costume designer saying that the main problem with dressing Susan was that she really wanted to be a 5'10" blonde.

So yes, I suspect that the hideous blonde wigs involved with Corinne the French maid and Desiree Dubois may have been Susan's idea.

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More and more I think the person she sees in the mirror is her father (or a parental figure) who abused her as a child. Is Agnes Nixon doing another incest story? (Well Marlene Mcwhatever her name is I mean tongue.png .) If done right it can be powerful--and it also sets up an obvious romantic situation if someone (Pete?) helps her admit to what happened. (Isn't that how Ceara and Jeremy connected?)

I'm not sure it is how they connected but it was a huge part of their story.

This reminds me, I didn't know who Genie Francis was when she was All My Children. I liked Ceara but I didn't know who Genie Francis was from a stranger on the street. Ceara and Erica's Enchantment cat-fight is still probably my favorite cat-fight of all time. I don't think they touched each other but there was an extraordinary amount of throwing and blocking.

I also get the impression it's some sort of child molestation story in the pike for Celia.

It wasn't their initial story line, which was Jeremy dating Ceara so she'd leave his son David alone, but it did deepen their connection when he stood by her side as she recalled her father molesting her.

You guys who didn't know Genie Francis as Laura make me feel so old!

Considering David's entire family has been wiped out, YES, I do want to see his small child with Cara, preferably a son, since girls haven't worked out well for him!

I want the child alive, too!

That Lia is adorable, but she looks nothing like VI or LH, so I'd say nope to her being David and Cara's kid. She's fair-skinned and blue-eyed, and I just really doubt those two characters would produce a child who looks like Lia. She looks more like a young Celia to me.

When we saw that brief clip of a creepy old guy in the mirror looking at Celia + the clip of her sobbing on the floor, I definitely wondered if they were laying the groundwork for an Erica-esque rape story with Celia raped as a pre-teen or young teen like Erica was. But the spoilers we've heard say that she has a dark past that even SHE is not aware of, so if she's been abused - and it looks like she has - then my guess would be that she thinks this guy is/was her father, but really he isn't.

Speaking of Celia... I know we've debated the locket photo from the preview. I looked at the clip again, and I thought the woman looked vaguely like a younger Peggy Moody. Remember her from Wildwind? She'd have been too old to be Celia's mother, but I wonder if she was her grandmother perhaps? Fitzgerald is an Irish surname, after all. Yes, I'm grasping at straws, but if someone says a character has a secretive dark past, I go into speculation overload. tongue.png

Oh yeah, Celia was definitely raped by someone I'd say. Maybe she blocked it out like Erica and Ceara both did.

I'm still 100% certain that the woman in the locket is Francesca James.

Blah, Lucy's 'Mame' was awful.

Eric and I are not pleased at you for posting that clip.

I may not be as big a theatre fan as you two, but I'm also displeased that anyone would post Lucille Ball's terrible performance as Mame!

Yea she did, I wanna say she was Randi's foster sister. I don't remember what happened, she worked for Adam as a maid and dated Jackson, which ended her and Erica's friendship. Then I think she just fell off the canvas when they couldn't figure out what to do with her.

Yup, that was Carmen's story. I liked her too and was disappointed that she just disappeared.

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Yea she did, I wanna say she was Randi's foster sister. I don't remember what happened, she worked for Adam as a maid and dated Jackson, which ended her and Erica's friendship. Then I think she just fell off the canvas when they couldn't figure out what to do with her.

Walt Willey was very vocal behind the scenes about NOT liking the relationship with Carmen. He felt that Jack moved way too fast into that, and that Jack would never bring another woman into his and Erica's bed that quickly and flaunt it the way he did on the show. He really hated the way Jack was written around that time and complained about it... which led to him getting fired. He's publicly said that's what happened and that's why Jack was written off for a while as being in Paris. Carmen was just dropped, so we don't know if she left town, if she's cleaning someone else's house somewhere in Pine Valley, if she was killed in the tornado, etc.

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I hope they don't do an abuse story with Celia. [spoiler] That story would similar undertones as Miranda's story finding out she is the product of rape. Plus, we have Cassandra who is involved in sex trafficking.

Oops, spoiler tags aren't working.

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Carmen was just dropped, so we don't know if she left town, if she's cleaning someone else's house somewhere in Pine Valley, if she was killed in the tornado, etc.

As a viewer, I hate dangling story threads such as these. As an aspiring head writer...? :)

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I hope they don't do an abuse story with Celia. <spoiler>That story would similar undertones as Miranda's story finding out she is the product of rape. Plus, we have Cassandra who is involved in sex trafficking.</spoiler>

Oops, spoiler tags aren't working.

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Ive been meaning to ask but at what point will stuff be needing to be put in spoiler tags and long discussion of such directed towards the Spoiler forum? It seems as if most interviews, preview clips, casting news, etc... seem to be spoilerish to a degree but freely posted and discussed here and thats obviously not the case with the other soaps. Just wondering....thanks

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As a viewer, I hate dangling story threads such as these. As an aspiring head writer...? smile.png

I'm okay with some things being left dangling. :) Someone just wandering off the canvas leaves the door open to bring them back at some point if needed, and it beats killing everyone off when you don't want them around anymore.

I spent a lot of my teenage years dreaming of being a soap writer. :P Nice to know I'm not alone.

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I'm okay with some things being left dangling. smile.png Someone just wandering off the canvas leaves the door open to bring them back at some point if needed, and it beats killing everyone off when you don't want them around anymore.

I spent a lot of my teenage years dreaming of being a soap writer. tongue.png Nice to know I'm not alone.

I prefer when people move out of town and the other characters actually acknowledge that they left.

You're definitely not alone here. As a teenager, I used to dream of being headwriter for both AMC and GH.

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She is TOO young to be his grandmother. I kinda wish they'd make Dixie look older instead of making her hotter and better looking than when she was in ABC

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She is TOO young to be his grandmother. I kinda wish they'd make Dixie look younger instead of making her hotter and better looking than when she was in ABC

Heck, Susan Lucci's own grandchildren are kindergarten-age and younger! SHE doesn't even have teenaged grandkids yet!

I mean, yes, Cady looks infinitely better than she did on AMC in the past (although that's admittedly not saying much), but they seem to be trying to make her look younger at the same time they're making her son and grandson older! It makes no sense. Look at Cady, and then stop and think that she is one drunken prom night away from being a GREAT grandmother on this show.

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