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GH: November 2012 Discussion Thread

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Edward and Lila are in heaven together and we have to talk about why it doesn't make sense?!

I didn't say it didn't make sense for Edward and Lila to be together in Heaven. I said it didn't make sense for them to look as they did when they had passed, because -- again, according to Biblical scripture -- you are ravaged no longer by time, age, disease, etc. In Heaven, you are (and look) eternally young, and you are in perfect physical and mental health.

It's bad enough when TV shows have ghosts of past characters that look as old as they did when they died, if not older. Alan's spirit, for example, really should not look as he does now, especially as Stuart Damon himself continues to age. But I excuse it in those circumstances, because seeing that particular actor again, even as the ghost of his or her once-living character, beats never seeing them again at all.

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I didn't say it didn't make sense for Edward and Lila to be together in Heaven. I said it didn't make sense for them to look as they did when they had passed, because -- again, according to Biblical scripture -- you are ravaged no longer by time, age, disease, etc. In Heaven, you are (and look) eternally young, and you are in perfect physical and mental health.

I mean, it's bad enough when TV shows have ghosts of past characters that look as old as they did when they died, if not older. Alan's spirit, for example, really should not look as he does now, or whenever Stuart Damon makes another cameo. But I excuse it in those circumstances, because seeing that particular actor again, even as the ghost of his once-living character, beats never seeing them again.

This is Disney/ABC, not the Christian Broadcasting Network.

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I didn't say it didn't make sense for Edward and Lila to be together in Heaven. I said it didn't make sense for them to look as they did when they had passed, because -- again, according to Biblical scripture -- you are ravaged no longer by time, age, disease, etc. In Heaven, you are (and look) eternally young, and you are in perfect physical and mental health.

It's bad enough when TV shows have ghosts of past characters that look as old as they did when they died, if not older. Alan's spirit, for example, really should not look as he does now, especially as Stuart Damon himself continues to age. But I excuse it in those circumstances, because seeing that particular actor again, even as the ghost of his or her once-living character, beats never seeing them again at all.

But who said the Quartermaines, or the viewers, even believe in any of that? You and I do, but it certainly isn't something that the writers shouldn't have included because it isn't biblically accurate.

I would rather see Edward and Lila walk into heaven together as WE recognize them, then as two young kids because people in heaven are "eternally young"

This is Disney/ABC, not the Christian Broadcasting Network.

THANK YOU.

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Why do bitches have to be picky? Edward and Lila are in heaven together and we have to talk about why it doesn't make sense?!

Don't get fucked up the night before Thanksgiving, trick. I still think it was a lovely image to see her stand and then walk up the stairs, but Khan's point was perfectly valid. You'd think Lila checked in her wheelchair outside those pearly gates before she met her Savior face to face.

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But who said the Quartermaines, or the viewers, even believe in any of that?

Who said it? Ron Carlivati, that's who. Unless you think Edward and Lila were walking hand-in-hand toward, say, Valhalla?

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Don't get fucked up the night before Thanksgiving, trick. I still think it was a lovely image to see her stand and then walk up the stairs, but Khan's point was perfectly valid. You'd think Lila checked in her wheelchair outside those pearly gates before she met her Savior face to face.

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Yes, but the wheelchair was something we associate with Lila, therefore it made perfect sense for it to be there.

Bite me.

Who said it? Ron Carlivati, that's who. Unless you think Edward and Lila were walking hand-in-hand toward, say, Valhalla?

Just because you believe in Heaven doesn't mean you believe in every last aspect of the Bible. Everyone has their own personal spiritual beliefs.

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It's fiction. It's "art". It's subjective. I'm procrastinating from getting some work done for tomorrow. It was a lovely episode and doesn't deserve to be picked apart. And I'll leave it there.

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It's fiction. It's "art". It's subjective. I'm procrastinating from getting some work done for tomorrow. It was a lovely episode and doesn't deserve to be picked apart. And I'll leave it there.

We're still not friends ;)

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Yes, but the wheelchair was something we associate with Lila, therefore it made perfect sense for it to be there.

No. It. Doesn't. It made no sense at all for Lila to be inside that wheelchair still, because she simply wouldn't need it if she were in Heaven. God would not allow anyone to roll around Heaven all day in a Hoveround, because that would suggest that physical infirmities exist even in Heaven, where they are not supposed to.

Moreover, this has nothing to do with personal beliefs. The fact of the matter is, the existence of Heaven is a Judeo-Christian concept; and as such, all rules and assumptions about it are Judeo-Christian as well and must be observed strictly.

It's "art".

Nothing Ron Carlivati does come close to being "art." Camp? Yes. Art? No.

Oh, nevermind. I just realized why you put it in quotes in the first place. :P

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Moreover, this has nothing to do with personal beliefs. The fact of the matter is, the existence of Heaven is a Judeo-Christian concept; and as such, all rules and assumptions about it are Judeo-Christian as well and must be observed strictly.

Dude, give it a rest. John Ingle himself was not a religious man, and wouldn't have cared if today's episode abided by "the rules" or not. Today's episode was about GH saying goodbye to its beloved patriarch. They chose to do it this way, and who cares if Lila was in her wheelchair or not? It was a beautiful episode & a beautiful scene.

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No. It. Doesn't. It made no sense at all for Lila to be inside that wheelchair still, because she simply wouldn't need it if she were in Heaven. God would not allow anyone to roll around Heaven all day in a Hoveround, because that would suggest that physical infirmities exist even in Heaven, where they are not supposed to.

Moreover, this has nothing to do with personal beliefs. The fact of the matter is, the existence of Heaven is a Judeo-Christian concept; and as such, all rules and assumptions about it are Judeo-Christian as well and must be observed strictly.

You're way overthinking this way too much and ruining what was a very touching final tribute to Lila and Edward.

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Life isn't fair and neat and children don't always die after their parents, but I do wish Alan were still living. Even so, Tracy being "alone" now was especially poignant and reminded me of how my great-grandmother and aunt felt when they were in the same positions. You may have children and grandchildren, but there's nothing like losing your immediate family that you grew up with.

When Tracy was speaking of her family I cried,when there were flashbacks i cried,when they did the tribute i cried,when they sang i cried,I couldn't take any of it....I died a little inside today.......

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