Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 1. The only time that Sonny made references to Deke early in his run was in relation to his resentment of his biological father abandoning the family. He never used his childhood abuse as a crutch as to why he shouldn't be doing any jail time. Every time he was faced with jail back then, he made it clear that he just didn't want to lose his freedom and everything he had by going there. Nowadays, it's all about being Deke locking him in a closet or similar bullcaca. 2. Todd has never expected the world to feel sorry for him for his abuse. As a matter of fact, in spite of the loving family that he does have, a part of him still believes that he isn't worthy enough to be loved or accepted (as recently indicated by the 50-11 Irene hallucinations). Aside from members of his family, everyone is allowed to and does hate Todd consistently - which is more than I can say for Sonny (or Jasus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Looks like I'm in a minority again, because while DZ doesn't knock my socks off, he's steady, dependable, and gets the job done. I think he has a purpose on this specifically for that reason. As for Lulu? I could never figure out if it was really about the acting or the shitty way that she's been written that made her character a fail for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Didn't Todd exploit people's sympathy for his abuse when he was faking DID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Olivia does not look in her late 30s, her botox self looks late 40s. And Dante is supposed to be the same age as Johnny and last year Johnny was the same age as BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Killed Guy Armitage Framed Patrick for the yacht bomb Spousal abuse. He punched Tea in the face Held 14 people hostage when trying to find Georgie's killer. He used his sexual abuse and faked DID to get him off and then skipped town when he was found out Shot RJ when he came back to town to get Tea Set a bomb off at the LPD in order to steal evidence Gave Jack away and told Blair he was dead Kidnapped Sam Killed Irene He didnt go to jail for any of that and has gone out of his way to either blame other people, lie and/or find a way around the law so he woulndt have to pay. And there's plenty of other stuff. These are just some of the more prevalent items i can think of. He did. Thats how he manipulated the courts to get a free out of jail card. He used his sexual abuse to his advantage Are you sure? Johnny was 30 at the time Kristina was using him to make Sonny jealous and I recall Dante being mentioned as being ~26 or 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 They don't count because that those were the years of Victor/Frodd and I don't count his fuckery as a part of Todd's. As for turning back the clock on GH 15 years, that sounds like a plan to me - as it would surely make a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Did he? Because I see all of those resulting in him being nearly universally hated by everyone in town, save for certain members of his family. That's a big difference between having the entire town forced to kiss your ass and extol all your wonderful virtues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Do you think it would have had a positive change or they could have gotten story out of it. Otherwise IA he really hasn't served a purpose in years and I'm not a fan of this so called grand love story now with he and Stephanie. But he could have just left town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Did he go to jail for them? No. He's a criminal who keeps getting a free pass for his crimes and its not like he just does minor petty stuff like blackmail and stealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 I think if he'd died around the time of the Massimo story it would have had much higher stakes and helped explain more of the bizarre gorgon woman Stephanie has become over the last decade. The character has always been a weak point of B&B's "core", IMO, and I just do not in any way buy the Eric/Stephanie relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yes I'm sure because at that time they aged Johnny up to 30(same age as BB at the time) and went with it for the next year. And Olivia said Johnny and Dante are the same age. And neither are passing for under 30 anyway so fans just accepted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 But he's in jail right now for "killing" Victor, which is more than what I can say for Sonny and Jasus. Herein lies the reason why Todd Manning is regarded as better than any of those two airtime hogs. If folks were bending over backwards to make sure that Todd would never do jail time because "he is good and pure of heart" or "he loves his kids", he most certainly would be as reviled as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 He's in jail for skippping bail, not murder. He was out and free and awaiting trial which is what Sonny recently had going on. Sonny however did not skip bail or else he'd be in jail too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 The difference is - Todd is hated by many. Most people consider him to be scummy. Sonny, however, is viewed as some epic hero that everyone should just love because he's the mobster "with the heart of gold" and he only does bad things because of the evil Deke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 17, 2012 Members Share Posted April 17, 2012 Basically. That's a good one because had Sonny skipped bail, he still wouldn't find himself in jail if he were found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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