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GH: January Discussion Thread

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I almost think it's a conspiracy. It's like the casting department couldn't possibly find a charismatic black actor for some reason, and yet they do exist, so how was this man hired? It defies all logic. It's like they are setting the black character up to fail. I'm white as snow, but it's really hard not to see it that way.

I don't think this is a racial thing, I think this is just GH's idea of good acting. Steve Burton, Kelly Monaco, Julie Marie Berman, Dominic Zamwhatever...the show is filled with actors who perhaps due to a lack of training or a lack of talent recite their lines as if they themselves were saying it. Realism is fine, and realistically people do talk like Shawn, but it doesn't make for compelling drama. Conversely, Constance Towers never gives her lines realistically and always goes for a bit of theatricality and for TV it works. There is realism, and then there is fake realism which comes off as realistic on TV. Realism for the sake of realism is dull.

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Does anyone have a concrete date on when Todd & Blair arrive on GH? They and Starr are the only things interesting about GH and I'd like to know when they're coming and how long they're staying so that I can get closure with those folks and move on once they leave the show.

Thank you in advance.

Nothing has been stated, we just know in February. It sounds like very early Feb is when RC and FV's amterial starts and it also sounds like the OLTL infusion will come very very early on in their tenure.

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Well TJ and Molly's scenes were a little disappointing, all that guy did was mad dog her half the time...LOL. I liked how Molly wasn't going to let him treat her like some bimbo. Just because he has a massive chip on his shoulder, she isn't going to let him talk to her like she did something to him.

So Sam, who has spent years crying about losing a baby and wanting a baby, not being able to even have a baby (until she got surgery that allowed her to have a baby again), is considering an abortion?! WTF? I don't believe that at all. And all because the baby might be Franco's.

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Well TJ and Molly's scenes were a little disappointing, all that guy did was mad dog her half the time...LOL. I liked how Molly wasn't going to let him treat her like some bimbo. Just because he has a massive chip on his shoulder, she isn't going to let him talk to her like she did something to him.

So Sam, who has spent years crying about losing a baby and wanting a baby, not being able to even have a baby (until she got surgery that allowed her to have a baby again), is considering an abortion?! WTF? I don't believe that at all. And all because the baby might be Franco's.

I don't think it's unrealistic that a woman would consider wanting to abort her rapist's baby, no matter how much she wants one. I can't imagine having an abortion, but if I were raped...yeah, I'd be thinking about it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I would go through with it. I think it would be much more unrealistic if she didn't consider her options in these circumstances.

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I don't think it's unrealistic that a woman would consider wanting to abort her rapist's baby, no matter how much she wants one. I can't imagine having an abortion, but if I were raped...yeah, I'd be thinking about it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I would go through with it. I think it would be much more unrealistic if she didn't consider her options in these circumstances.

That's a great point and get it. I think part of why I don't like it is because I don't like the idea of abortion, plus I still just find it a bit unsettling how easily Sam is willing to lose another baby. We have seen her fight and cry about having a child for so many years and think she couldn't physically carry one or never be approved for adoption, causing her to accept the fact that she could never be a mother. She went bat crazy when she had to watch the man she loves raise a child of his own. Now she has a chance to have a baby again and is ready to throw it away so easily.

I realize the child could be a product of rape, and it's realistic for Sam to consider aborting it, but I think it would've been more authentic to Sam's character if she went through this without considering abortion. I would've liked to see her fight to accept it & actually look forward to finally being a mother, whatever the circumstances.

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Well TJ and Molly's scenes were a little disappointing, all that guy did was mad dog her half the time...LOL. I liked how Molly wasn't going to let him treat her like some bimbo. Just because he has a massive chip on his shoulder, she isn't going to let him talk to her like she did something to him.

So Sam, who has spent years crying about losing a baby and wanting a baby, not being able to even have a baby (until she got surgery that allowed her to have a baby again), is considering an abortion?! WTF? I don't believe that at all. And all because the baby might be Franco's.

None of this makes any sense. God bless and goodnight!

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That's a great point and get it. I think part of why I don't like it is because I don't like the idea of abortion, plus I still just find it a bit unsettling how easily Sam is willing to lose another baby. We have seen her fight and cry about having a child for so many years and think she couldn't physically carry one or never be approved for adoption, causing her to accept the fact that she could never be a mother. She went bat crazy when she had to watch the man she loves raise a child of his own. Now she has a chance to have a baby again and is ready to throw it away so easily.

I realize the child could be a product of rape, and it's realistic for Sam to consider aborting it, but I think it would've been more authentic to Sam's character if she went through this without considering abortion. I would've liked to see her fight to accept it & actually look forward to finally being a mother, whatever the circumstances.

That's part of the reason why I feel the story is so damn icky. It feels like Sam is being punished in some odd way. She wanted children for eight years and now that she has been raped there is no possible way that she can even enjoy her pregnancy or the fact that she is conceiving and carrying a child. She has been raped and now might have to deal with the fact that her child - which she has wanted for nearly a decade - her first born, came from a sexual assault. Something she didn't want, was not complicit in and which happened to her on her honeymoon no less. It's just disgusting. There is a no win situation for her. Either she kills the baby she desperately wanted for eight years and she gets branded an ungrateful witch for aborting the pregnancy or she has the child and has to deal with the fact that it was created out of violence and was a gross violation of her person and her husband. Way to go GH.

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That's part of the reason why I feel the story is so damn icky. It feels like Sam is being punished in some odd way. She wanted children for eight years and now that she has been raped there is no possible way that she can even enjoy her pregnancy or the fact that she is conceiving and carrying a child. She has been raped and now might have to deal with the fact that her child - which she has wanted for nearly a decade - her first born, came from a sexual assault. Something she didn't want, was not complicit in and which happened to her on her honeymoon no less. It's just disgusting. There is a no win situation for her. Either she kills the baby she desperately wanted for eight years and she gets branded an ungrateful witch for aborting the pregnancy or she has the child and has to deal with the fact that it was created out of violence and was a gross violation of her person and her husband. Way to go GH.

I agree with you, Skin. Great post.

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That's part of the reason why I feel the story is so damn icky. It feels like Sam is being punished in some odd way. She wanted children for eight years and now that she has been raped there is no possible way that she can even enjoy her pregnancy or the fact that she is conceiving and carrying a child. She has been raped and now might have to deal with the fact that her child - which she has wanted for nearly a decade - her first born, came from a sexual assault. Something she didn't want, was not complicit in and which happened to her on her honeymoon no less. It's just disgusting. There is a no win situation for her. Either she kills the baby she desperately wanted for eight years and she gets branded an ungrateful witch for aborting the pregnancy or she has the child and has to deal with the fact that it was created out of violence and was a gross violation of her person and her husband. Way to go GH.

Welcome to drama, toots! This story wouldn't have nearly the impact that it does if Sam didn't go through all of that! That's where the character driven dramatic storytelling comes in. Sam, the character, has gone through so much in order to be able to conceive and bear a child -- now that she's able, THIS happens to her. How will she react? See, this is why you and others who LOVE characters so much and have screamed for character driven drama instead of plot driven stories really need to sit down, shut up and WATCH. This story is doing EXACTLY what it's supposed to be doing. It's creating a dramatic situation based on all the variables of this character's history and posing the question "What's Next?" What will Sam do? She wanted a child for so long -- but the child she wanted was with the man she loves. That's the reason for all of the struggle and the surgeries. If she had factored in the fact that she would be raped and impregnated by the rapist, would she have forgone the operation and gave up the chance of having a baby with Jason? Well, this is the immediate, more pressing version of that story. Would she give up having a baby if the baby wasn't Jason's?

This is the edge that daytime drama needs to have in order to survive, and yet people don't recognize it and shun it... and then wonder why we get the same five predictable stories. This is a twist on the Whose the Daddy story that has driven soaps for years... but it's not in a cute and tidy package and now people are getting self righteous about how "gross" and "disgusting" it is. All the while, not realizing the fact that they can't predict the outcome to this which is why you need to keep watching.

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Maybe the baby will come out telling us Who. Will. Jason. Be? Or are we supposed to have forgotten by now the month long promo for a story that went nowhere?

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Maybe the baby will come out telling us Who. Will. Jason. Be? Or are we supposed to have forgotten by now the month long promo for a story that went nowhere?

I'm still waiting for Errol to answer me back on that because he told me I was wrong when I said the Borg wouldn't change...lol.

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Again... was the story about Jason changing or was it about the people in his life wondering if he'd change? The promo said everything correctly. If it had said "Jason. Will. Change. Drastically!" then I would understand holding on to a six month old promo tagline like a dog with a bone, because he hasn't.

Waits for someone to get all Strong Black Woman on me: "Mmm-hmm... Well, I won't apologize for gnawing on these sour grapes! *snaps*"

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Welcome to drama, toots! This story wouldn't have nearly the impact that it does if Sam didn't go through all of that! That's where the character driven dramatic storytelling comes in. Sam, the character, has gone through so much in order to be able to conceive and bear a child -- now that she's able, THIS happens to her. How will she react? See, this is why you and others who LOVE characters so much and have screamed for character driven drama instead of plot driven stories really need to sit down, shut up and WATCH. This story is doing EXACTLY what it's supposed to be doing. It's creating a dramatic situation based on all the variables of this character's history and posing the question "What's Next?" What will Sam do? She wanted a child for so long -- but the child she wanted was with the man she loves. That's the reason for all of the struggle and the surgeries. If she had factored in the fact that she would be raped and impregnated by the rapist, would she have forgone the operation and gave up the chance of having a baby with Jason? Well, this is the immediate, more pressing version of that story. Would she give up having a baby if the baby wasn't Jason's?

This is the edge that daytime drama needs to have in order to survive, and yet people don't recognize it and shun it... and then wonder why we get the same five predictable stories. This is a twist on the Whose the Daddy story that has driven soaps for years... but it's not in a cute and tidy package and now people are getting self righteous about how "gross" and "disgusting" it is. All the while, not realizing the fact that they can't predict the outcome to this which is why you need to keep watching.

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So much truth in this post. Good job, R!

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This is a twist on the Whose the Daddy story that has driven soaps for years... but it's not in a cute and tidy package and now people are getting self righteous about how "gross" and "disgusting" it is. All the while, not realizing the fact that they can't predict the outcome to this which is why you need to keep watching.

I am going to go out on a limb here and predict the baby is Jason's.

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