Members DRW50 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Oh it was definitely about that, but I don't think it was such a huge priority that this had to happen. They'd kept Josh around for a few years after the reveal and only then was he killed. Stuff like Zach deliberately killing him was, IMO, Pratt's idea of hotness. Josh was just thrown in because they wanted some more drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Can I list a character who has been propped to death JASON MORGAN The entire Quartermaine family was exterminated to prop that pointless boring piece of nothingness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rlj Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Uh, I would diasgree with this right here. Beth and Phillip have had their turns at going a little crazy when the other found a new love interest. Phillip was obsessed with beth when she chose Lujack over him, but Phillip and Beth still had their moents. Phillip may have chosen Harley over Beth but he really didnt imo, he even called Beth his wife right in front og Harley who was his fiance at the time. If anything Harley was the sacrificed lamb for Beth/Phillip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Y&R never really trashed Nina for Ryan/Victoria (since Victoria & Nina were fairly evenly matched). As Carl said Nina went under the bus (to an extent) for Ryan/Tricia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted October 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 . Ooops. I was thinking Rex and Gigi weren't even on the show when Sky(e) was on. How quickly we forget. It does, but it seems the more passionate the support or opposition is to the pairing, the quicker the online community is to whip out the "props". If you like the couple -- it's worth it. And to me this kind of defines the difference between propping and storytelling. That triangle had three strong POVs all well represented and allowed the audience to come to different conclusions about who (if anyone) was being propped. Perhaps it's only on the internet that the concept of propping really exists. Where we look at the storytelling strategies and who is supposed to be the "root for" pairing and analyze everything to death. And it seems more pronounced if a pairing is polarizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Am I mis-remembering Nina with a gun to her head, a quivering mess at the thought of losing Ryan to his teenage sex toy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 No. I hated the story, although I guess compared to Y&R today it was Gloria Steinem, since Nina at least got help and moved on with her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Even though I loved Phillip & Harley in the late 90's, they definitely did the character of Beth no favors from the time of her late 1997 return til 2000. I stopped watching in late 2000, so I don't quite know how they finally split up PHarley for good, I just know that Beth eventually became Princess of San Cristobel and nearly died thanks to Edmund. The fact that Soap Opera Digest nominated Beth Chamberlin (Beth) in the Best Villainess category at the 1999 SOD Awards shows how far off course they got with the character (although I think they would've nominated Wendy Moniz instead had she not just announced her departure, but that's moot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Nope. That was a GREAT story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'd actually have to disagree about Nina being thrown under the bus for Ryan/Tricia. Sure Nina shooting herself was over the top but did a Ryan/Tricia pairing actually have fans? Nina survived and came out stronger as a successful independent woman. Ryan got swept up in Dennison family drama, lost touch with his once adopted son and ended up dead. Now characters like Bobby Marsino, Hope and Paul being pushed out of the way for Victor/Nikki? That's simply quite wrong. Probably the worst propping done for me was on ATWT when Jack and Katie were paired up while Carly was on the run and then she came back to town. They really trashed Carly's character with that storyline. Josh and Annie were boring in 1995 and I think they were trying for Rick and Annie when they gave Annie that history which was a few months before Reva showed up in Springfield. Nicole on Days has been frequently the sacrificial lamb over the years most notably for Brady/Chloe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Don't forget Jack, Diane, Josh & Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 I didn't like the history rewrite regarding Cole/Nina, and I'd never liked Ryan, so that just amplified it. At the time I was also very wary that Nina was going to be written out of the show. Once that didn't happen, I was more OK with the story, since they had the characters move on with their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Lydia Summer Zander Stefan Connor Mary Who else was killed over them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm not sure if Hope or Paul were sacrificial lambs for Victor/Nikki. We barely ever saw Paul most of the time after he was with Nikki. The show kept throwing Victor at various other women, for story purposes, like Diane. Hope just seemed to fade away due to lack of interest. Probably one of the more blatant was Janice Frame on AW, who over the course of a year lost her mind over Mac and finally went on a poisoning and knifing spree. This packed more of a punch than the long list of people ruined for Nik/Emily, because you actually cared about everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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