2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Thought I'd get the thread back on track by posting some ratings from the 70's!

March 73

1 ATWT 10.6

2 Hollywood Squares 10.3

3 AW 9.7

4 DOOL 9.5

5 GH 9.4

6 Newlywed Game 9.2

7 Lets Make a Deal 8.9

8 Jeopardy 8.8

9 TGL 8.7

10 TD SFT Split Second all 8.6

 

ABC's 90-minute 1:30-3 p.m. EST game show block was better counterprogramming than I realized. That's a rather tight race at 2 p.m. among DOOL, The Newlywed Game and TGL. Also, notice that all but one of these shows in the top 12 were at least six years old (if we count Let's Make a Deal on ABC as a continuation of the NBC run).

1 hour ago, Franko said:

ABC's 90-minute 1:30-3 p.m. EST game show block was better counterprogramming than I realized. That's a rather tight race at 2 p.m. among DOOL, The Newlywed Game and TGL. Also, notice that all but one of these shows in the top 12 were at least six years old (if we count Let's Make a Deal on ABC as a continuation of the NBC run).

When most soaps went to an hour that was the  end of counterprogramming and variety in daytime.

ABC grabbing LMAD was a coup for them, even if they had to agree to Monty Hall getting some primetime specials which they usually threw away in undesirable slots.

2 hours ago, slick jones said:

@robbwolff  Thanks for clarifying with facts, especially since those don't seem to matter around here these days. We have folks answering questions about actors and the shows they appear on without any thought to using the handy Soap Hoppers Thread because they dislike me, and this one expressing every thought that ever occurred to them inaccurately and surrounded by gibberish.

                                         

I'm so glad you brought up clarity. Let's have some. I avoid you & your turf because you let me know for some unknown reason that you cannot stand me & treat me as badly as one can in public. This is me, trying to protect myself from you, by staying out of your way. It's your deal. You came up with it.

Yes!! To get back to the purpose of this thread back on track and get away from the cancer of this board:

The May, 1978 Daytime TV issue had these Top 10 ratings. 

AW 11.1/31

ATWT 10/30

AMC 9.9/31

GL 9.2/27

Y&R 9.1/30

OLTL 8.9/26

SFT 8.7/29

RH 8.6/28

GH 8.3/23

The Doctors 8.2/24

 

2 hours ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Yes!! To get back to the purpose of this thread back on track and get away from the cancer of this board:

The May, 1978 Daytime TV issue had these Top 10 ratings. 

AW 11.1/31

ATWT 10/30

AMC 9.9/31

GL 9.2/27

Y&R 9.1/30

OLTL 8.9/26

SFT 8.7/29

RH 8.6/28

GH 8.3/23

The Doctors 8.2/24

 

Wow Another World on top.  AMC the top ABC soap and OLTL the second highest soap on ABC..Ryan's hope beating GH!!  WOW!

Edited October 10, 20223 yr by JoeCool

1 hour ago, JoeCool said:

Wow Another World on top

Harding "Pete" Lemay HW

I think 1978 was the year that ABC's big three had a huge rise and the P&G shows starting tanking. What month did that take place and what lead up to that?

Edited October 10, 20223 yr by kalbir

 

1 hour ago, kalbir said:

I think 1978 was the year that ABC's big three had a huge rise and the P&G shows starting tanking. What month did that take place and what lead up to that?

Gloria Monty, Doug Marland, huge rise in '80

49 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

 

Gloria Monty, Doug Marland, huge rise in '80

The rise started in late 1978 and 1979 with All My Children hitting No. 1 for the 78/79 season with GH a close second and increased further in 79 and 80. All My Children was an important and vital show to ABC's success than. Most people credit GH but it is AMC. GH did not have the competition of AMC vs. Y & R.

Edited October 10, 20223 yr by JoeCool

1 hour ago, JoeCool said:

The rise started in late 1978 and 1979 with All My Children hitting No. 1 for the 78/79 season with GH a close second and increased further in 79 and 80. All My Children was an important and vital show to ABC's success than. Most people credit GH but it is AMC. GH did not have the competition of AMC vs. Y & R.

Yeah, 1978-1979 AMC was #1 with 9.0, GH just behind at second/8.7, Y&R pulling up third/8.6. NBC was always envious of ABC because of ALL of their soaps & because they were network-owned. NBC was more envious of ABC than CBS. Weird but true. And, it's true that GH gets a disproportionate amount of ink & glory compared to AMC. NBC never felt they had power spread over their soaps, instead having one leader. I give you my favorite quotes. Hope you enjoy.

When CBS announced the cancellation of ATWT & GL, it was the end of the sponsor-owned soap, no more tie to radio, to P&G, to Irna, etc. Truly it was the end of an era. (HER STORIES, 235) 

When AMC & OLTL were cancelled the network ownership model was almost at an end. Only GH was left. On CBS only the Bells'. 4 soaps left. (HER STORIES, 285)

When DOOL left the broadcast network NBC for the streaming service Peacock on Sept. 12, 2022, only 2 broadcast networks continued to have soaps. NBC replaced DOOL at 1 pm eastern with another hour of NBC News.

1 hour ago, kalbir said:

I think 1978 was the year that ABC's big three had a huge rise and the P&G shows starting tanking. What month did that take place and what lead up to that?

I don't know which week these ratings represent. It was in the May, 1978 issue of Daytime TV and all they said was these are the latest ratings as we went to press. Who knows when they went to press for that issue. At least a couple months before.

13 minutes ago, JoeCool said:

The rise started in late 1978 and 1979 with All My Children hitting No. 1 for the 78/79 season with GH a close second and increased further in 79 and 80. All My Children was an important and vital show to ABC's success than. Most people credit GH but it is AMC. GH did not have the competition of AMC vs. Y & R.

I'm sure the YOU know this Joe, Doug Marland was LONG gone from GH in 1980. So for another poster to credit him for the huge rise of GH in 1980 is just wrong. That person is consistently incorrect and does not research facts. It's annoying. Anyway, happy to provide FACTS. 

1 hour ago, JoeCool said:

All My Children was an important and vital show to ABC's success than.

One thing about AMC that I got a kick out of. Talk of cancellation had come up about GH, 1977 first. Daytime VP Jackie Smith went to Agnes for advice when she began to put together a GH improvement plan. It was Agnes who put her onto Doug Marland. Doesn't say where she got the idea for "Glo". Just a little FYI.

1 hour ago, TEdgeofNight said:

2 hours ago, JoeCool said:

The rise started in late 1978 and 1979 with All My Children hitting No. 1 for the 78/79 season with GH a close second and increased further in 79 and 80. All My Children was an important and vital show to ABC's success than. Most people credit GH but it is AMC. GH did not have the competition of AMC vs. Y & R.

I'm sure the YOU know this Joe, Doug Marland was LONG gone from GH in 1980. So for another poster to credit him for the huge rise of GH in 1980 is just wrong. That person is consistently incorrect and does not research facts. It's annoying. Anyway, happy to provide FACTS. 

I'm sure I don't have to tell you, Joe, that the work a writer does in one year often doesn't pay off till the next 1 or 2 years later. I mean, it's obvious so I won't waste your time.

30 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

One thing about AMC that I got a kick out of. Talk of cancellation had come up about GH, 1977 first. Daytime VP Jackie Smith went to Agnes for advice when she began to put together a GH improvement plan. It was Agnes who put her onto Doug Marland. Doesn't say where she got the idea for "Glo". Just a little FYI.

Yes that is true! Agnes told Jackie on what needed to be done at GH. ABC then put their plan together for GH.

58 minutes ago, JoeCool said:

Yes that is true! Agnes told Jackie on what needed to be done at GH. ABC then put their plan together for GH.

Way to go, Joe, you're way ahead of me!!