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I had been working on something in the vein of Broadcast News...

-It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always think you're the smartest person in the room.

-No... it's awful.

-What do you do when your real life exceeds your dreams?

-(*whispers*) Keep it to yourself!

Love that movie.

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On his Facebook page, Ron Carlivati says "Never a dull moment..." with a link to one report about today's news, and then "More details emerging..." with a link to another article.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=729509812&sk=wall

Be weird if he ended up staying with OLTL, then again I'm not sure how the contracting would work or if he would still be going to GH or not.

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The biggest thing or hurdle to me casting wise would be to get rid of Frons-tied characters such as Ryan and Greenlee on All My Children although Greenlee I can live with more than Ryan also on One Life to Live there isn't too much dead weight there now in days so I would just say the Ford brothers although b/c of their age and importance to the show they might keep the Ford brothers.

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The biggest thing or hurdle to me casting wise would be to get rid of Frons-tied characters such as Ryan and Greenlee on All My Children although Greenlee I can live with more than Ryan also on One Life to Live there isn't too much dead weight there now in days so I would just say the Ford brothers although b/c of their age and importance to the show they might keep the Ford brothers.

I'm sorry....what? I must have missed that memo. :unsure:

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I concur, JaneAusten. The platform has nothing to do with it. People are missing the point. Soaps are not in trouble because they are telecast on network television. They are in trouble because they are garbage and packaged for too small an audience. Shallow, unlikeable characters playing out derivative, inane plots with banal, illiterate dialogue.

While soaps are all those things and more, you would have had no problem finding people who thought the very same thing in 1951, 61, 71 and the most viewed year ever 1981. If the platform had nothing to do with it and if network TV audience erosion was not part of the problem, then the best soap would not have an identical ratings trajectory as the worst. Pick your choice for best soap, any soap of your choice from the year of your choosing, and its ratings followed the exact same path as the one you would deem the worst.

Daytime is how the US established their soaps. In the UK Eastenders airs at night. The ratings tell the tale about the impact of when a show airs.

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On his Facebook page, Ron Carlivati says "Never a dull moment..." with a link to one report about today's news, and then "More details emerging..." with a link to another article.

http://www.facebook....9509812&sk=wall

Be weird if he ended up staying with OLTL, then again I'm not sure how the contracting would work or if he would still be going to GH or not.

Ron and his bf....lol..thanks for the link Scotty...

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Without a doubt, it's not going to be the same show. I doubt most of the actors will do it and there's no way they could maintain the same production values. That said, I see this as a good thing. Once the soaps are gone, they're gone and they're not coming back. I feel 99% sure this will end up being a failure and won't last long, but that 1% is worth the risk. At least they are trying to keep the genre alive and migrate it to the internet. Soaps on TV have 5 years of life left at MOST, so they will have to migrate to the internet eventually. I'm happy they are at least trying this.

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Without a doubt, it's not going to be the same show. I doubt most of the actors will do it and there's no way they could maintain the same production values. That said, I see this as a good thing. Once the soaps are gone, they're gone and they're not coming back. I feel 99% sure this will end up being a failure and won't last long, but that 1% is worth the risk. At least they are trying to keep the genre alive and migrate it to the internet. Soaps on TV have 5 years of life left at MOST, so they will have to migrate to the internet eventually. I'm happy they are at least trying this.

IMO...its going to be about the teens. I dont see all the big names going online. Really..where are they going to get the money for all of them??

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Is it weird that I'm most happy for people like Robin and Slezak and Lucci?

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Soaps on TV have 5 years of life left at MOST, so they will have to migrate to the internet eventually. I'm happy they are at least trying this.

If Apple has its way, everything will be viewed this way. They have major plans for huge 50" screens with Safari and iTunes built in and we will be able to just skip cable altogether and buy our shows a la carte from iTunes, as well as visit netflix, hulu, youtube and wherever else one goes. If they cut deals with sports and news, why will anyone need network TV?

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To me this just adds to my belief that soaps still have some relevance. AMC and OLTL moving to the web, the continued interest in Dark Shadows (including the upcoming Johnny Depp movie adaptation), and even when Passions moved to DirecTV (although we all know how that worked out). But it just goes to show you that they do have an audience outside of early afternoons on the broadcast television networks.

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I also think it's smart for soaps to do this now - IIRC, the very healthy Eastenders recently mounted an ill-fated(?) web spinoff as well, but more importantly, we have the Netflix-based House of Cards remake (which won't be nearly as good as the original, but never mind) as well as a major, high-profile, critically-acclaimed primetime drama like Damages going to DirectTV. Are these all the same things? No, not at all, but it adds up to more legitimate scripted drama on different platforms with different apparatus for viewership and payment, and these soaps are riding that wave in one form or another. Now they just have to avoid being/looking like or scripted like [!@#$%^&*] Venice or The Bay.

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