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SOD's excerpt from Carolyn Hinsey's new book

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Longtime Digest columnist Carolyn Hinsey has written a book called "Afternoon Delight: Why Soaps Still Matter", slated for release this month from 4th Street Media. Here is an excerpt from Chapter 12, titled "Naming Names." Uh oh....

Bye Bye Bauers

The final domino for GUIDING LIGHT came in the form of a sleepy little New Jersey town called Peapack that knocked our beloved Springfield down for good.

On February 29th, 2008, Executive Producer Ellen Wheeler launched the new "production model" that was supposed to save GL. Her plan was to use hand-held camers, permanent sets and location shooting to revitalize this 70 year-old jewel.

"We all knew about the house in Peapack way before they told us about it," says a GL source of the home in New Jersey that would soon be used for much of the show's action. "I remember a general meeting with everybody where Ellen allowed people to ask questions. Someone said 'We're hearing rumors about a house the show has bought in New Jersey where we're all going to have to go work.' You could hear a pin drop. She said, 'No, that's not true at all.' Turned out we were just LEASING the house."

For some reason, Wheeler shrouded her Peapack plans in secrecy, keeping them even from CBS. "Everyone was going to [CBS Daytime honcho] Barbara Bloom and begging her to do something, but she turned a blind eye. And Ellen flatly refused to release the scripts to anyone. Ricky Paul [Goldin, Gus Aituro] didn't want anything to do with Peapack, so he quit." (Goldin joined ALL MY CHILDREN later that year as Tad's brother, Jake Martin.)

Wheeler filmed the first "location" episode on the sly with only a handful of people. Numerous actors spoke off the record of the debacle that followed, but true to daytime's protective atmosphere did not want to be quoted-even though their show isn't even on the air anymore.

"I remember we had a special airing of the first episode in the studio," recalls an actor. "They called everybody in and brought in lunch. We all sat there and watched this horrible episode. There was no storyline, they just placed people in different sets, like Josh and Billy on a work site with Remy. Everyone politely clapped and then we all filed out going, 'Oh, my God, what garbage.' Ellen was furious; it was like hell had frozen over. We found out later she wrote the episode herself."

Things went downhill from there, if you can imagine. Sources say that CBS honchos finally got a look at what Wheeler was doing and did not like what they saw. The shaky cameras and rough production values were bad enough, but viewers often could not hear the dialogue.

"Our days were numbered after that," sighs one source. "But Ellen just stayed in her tunnel and plowed ahead. We turned executive offices into nail salons and her office into a church sanctuary and shot everything with those awful hand-held cameras. She loved all the technical stuff. She was more invested in that than the actual storyline and characters on the show, which of course was the problem. Her attitude was, 'How dare they not buy into my vision?"

The cast had it the worst, changing their clothes on location shoots in cars and behind garages, and not getting proper hair, makeup, and wardrobe. Contrary to what fans were seeing on air, it was still supposed to be a soap opera.

"I can't tell you how humiliating it was out there. I remember one chilly day we were shooting a scene of Dinah and Mallet playing golf. It was supposed to be May, so Gina [Tognoni, Dinah] wasn't wearing a coat. She was freezing and got cranky. Ellen took off her giant down coat with the big label on it and said, 'Just wear this, it's fine.' I thought the costume designer was going to die. We'd all be out there and the director would ask a question and she'd say, 'Oh, the audience won't notice. They won't care.' but yes they will! They're invested! They care!"

GL limped along for over a year with the new "production model" as the writing - and morale - deteriorated.

"Fans just want to see their favorite characters in a well-written storyline," laments the source, who has gone on to work on another show. "They don't care if they're sitting in a real diner. They just want to see what happens to them."

GL was cancelled in March 2009.

"No show in daytime or prime-time, or anytime has touched so many millions of viewers over so many years," said CBS Daytime exec Barbara Bloom in a statement. She was later ousted.

The last episode aired on September 18, 2009, a full 72 years after Irna Phillips dreamed up her enduring vision of a light in the window to guide Reverend Ruthledge's flock.

"I don't think P&G willingly got out of the soap biz," surmises the source. "The people in charge just didn't understand why people watch soaps, which kills me because that was their whole thing - marketing and their connection to their buyers for 80 years. They lost contact with that."

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I get what you're saying, especially knowing Bryggman's return was thanks to Liz Hubbard (and Julianne Moore's wasn't thanks to TPTB either, I think).

But GL's was just so hilariously bad. Alan dies, and they spread his ashes at the edge of a lake. Frank and Blake? *eyeroll* No time at all spent reuniting Rick and Mindy---the list goes on and on.

I guess I'm trying to separate expectations and what was onscreen. And IMO, GL was a mess.

She wanted to come back. It was her idea.

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I guess it all comes down to expectations.

I expected very little from GL's finale, but got more than I expected for the finale.

I expected so much from ATWT's finale, considering it was in a completely different place than the limping GL, however in the end I did feel quite let down.

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Remind me...wasn't it Wheeler who started those dopey "Inside the Light" Wednesday episodes?

Yes, the Inside The Light episodes were her baby.

Comic hero Harley will always live in infamy....

Oh yes. Yes, she will.

If anyone hasn't seen it, it really is worth a peek. It is cray-cray. BTW, it probably helps to be at least a little tipsy.

I don't think the Inside the Light concept was a bad one, in theory. A few of the episodes really worked well. Generally, it was the ones that took place in sort of real time or kept the same general pace as a regular episode, just with focus on one story/character. The ones where they tried to speed through weeks or month of story in one episode (the worst example being the episode where Ross died, Ross was buried, and Blake finished grieving all in 42 minutes) were disastrous.

Same with the Peapack production model. The basic ideas were sound and certainly worth exploring in the changing daytime environment. The execution, however, was more often than not a total trainwreck.

I think Wheeler and Kreizman both had some good ideas but neither had any clue how to execute them properly. EW cared nothing about story, character, or continuity while DK, a decent scriptwriter, seemed incapable of devising, managing and pacing longterm story.

Instead of the ITL, they should've commited themselves to more character driven writing all the time. If they insisted on doing the one-character-focused ITLs, they should've done them once a month. Airing them every week just made the show's pacing problems even worse.

Actually, I don't believe it was down to Kreizman and Swajeski....at least, not Kreizman anyway. I'm pretty sure the ITL episodes started when Ellen Weston was still head writer and Swajeski was co-head.

Kreizman was HW when the ITL's started. Weston was fired and Kreizman promoted in April 2004. The first ITL didn't start until January 2006.

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Ten bucks says OLTL's finale will be the worst soap finale ever. It will end with Viki surrounded by the Fords, Cutter and a bunch of other useless newbies while we all go "WTF?"

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I remember back in 2003 when Ellen Wheeler was hired after the firing on John Conboy. John Conboy stated he wanted to know someone with no experience in producing a show, would be able to turn Guiding Light around? As most people hated his time as executive producer, I do agree with his comments now and then, the show was limping along. Ellen Wheeler was the wrong person to try and save a show that has been mishandled for many years.

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Ten bucks says OLTL's finale will be the worst soap finale ever. It will end with Viki surrounded by the Fords, Cutter and a bunch of other useless newbies while we all go "WTF?"

Don't worry, David Vickers will be there. Wearing nothing but skimpy boyshorts.

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I've always wondered what went down between Conboy and Wheeler. She was a Producer of GL when he came aboard and it wasn't long before she left that post and went back to ATWT as a Director. Then once Conboy was gone, she came on as EP. From the outset, I figured she had no clue what she was getting in to and would be a weak EP. I was right.

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I remember back in 2003 when Ellen Wheeler was hired after the firing on John Conboy. John Conboy stated he wanted to know someone with no experience in producing a show, would be able to turn Guiding Light around? As most people hated his time as executive producer, I do agree with his comments now and then, the show was limping along. Ellen Wheeler was the wrong person to try and save a show that has been mishandled for many years.

If he was that concerned about experience then why did he make Ellen Weston headwriter?

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If he was that concerned about experience then why did he make Ellen Weston headwriter?

I agree Ellen Weston was a terrible headwriter but then again when you are friends. You can hire anyone you want. John Conboy made many mistakes along the way but for me P&G should have stepped in. No one higher up cared what happened to the show and they just let everyone from 2002 run the show into the ground.

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