OLTL Tribute Thread

[slick jones]

Rest in Power, John Amos.....   One Life to Live's Captain Bill Moore.   

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/john-amos-dead-good-times-roots-1236019054/

 

[DRW50]

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[Vee]

I hadn't seen this one posted:

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I never thought I’d see bloopers related to that weird period when you could constantly hear the hammering and construction next door to them in 2002 lol.

[DRW50]

Thanks. That was fun. Seth being labeled "the good guy" reminds me of what a heel he originally was and how quickly he just became a nobody. I can't even remember his exit. 

[Vee]

He had a last day or two that was actually very well-written by the ghostwriting Malone and Griffith in January '03 - I believe he tracks Jessica down at Al's where she is staying shortly before Erin's Jessica leaves town (a nice reminder of the Al/Jessica childhood friendship from the '90s that was too often neglected later) and they have a proper, mature breakup. Probably Seth and Jessica's best-written scenes period.

When Bree's Jessica goes missing because of the Victor mess not long after, in February or March, Viki calls Seth off-camera (presumably still in town) to ask if she's seen him. That's the last mention of him.

[DRW50]

Thanks. 

[slick jones]

Thanks for posting this.

[j swift]

How do you reconcile your theory about ghostwriting with WGA rules?  Certainly, the union would not allow anyone to go uncredited.  Nor would they allow anyone to take credit for someone else's work.  So, do you mean it in a less literal way?  Or are you suggesting that they circumnavigated union rules?

[Vee]

I 'reconcile it' because writers in soaps have been doing this since at least Doug Marland at GH in the '70s in his opening weeks, and it's a known practice at the networks. Ask the key players in the Guza writing team about when he started again in '97. It's not a theory, it's simply the reality of what has happened over and over.

The magazines were openly reporting on Malone and Griffith ghostwriting and tweaking in January '03 and possibly late December '02 at the time, BTW. I was there. The new teams sometimes come in and massage or redo what was already scripted but not yet taped, without official credit.

Edited October 6, 2024 by Vee

[j swift]

I respect that you were present, but it does go against explicit WGA rules; so it is a quandary why it would be discussed so openly.

 

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[Vee]

That's because it generally wasn't, at the time at those other shows. Nobody at GH was issuing a press release saying Guza was overwriting Culliton material without his name on it, for example, but it was clear onscreen and later cast and crew did confirm it. It simply quietly happened, and it got out after the fact in most cases. But in early 2003 at OLTL the soap journalists (not the show) were being very open about it on background in SOD or SOW. It's simply been a quiet, common practice for a number of incoming writing teams for many decades.

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[j swift]

If that's the case, it really sucks for writers.  One assumes that they don't complain to their union because it is such a small community, and they want to be hired by other productions.  But, both taking the risk to go uncredited and having someone credited for your work is a nasty situation.  

Regardless of talent, everyone should adhere to rights achieved through collective bargaining. 

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[BetterForgotten]

Not sure if this was posted already, but Michelle Stanford said before landing the role of Phyllis on Y&R, she lost out on a role at OLTL - the feedback was she wasn’t “pretty.” I wonder what the OLTL role was. 

Michelle Stafford Reveals How Losing ‘OLTL’ Role Brought Her ‘Y&R’ and the Secret to Phyllis’ Longevity

[DRW50]

I would say Kelly (which would be ironic) but maybe the Blair recast? I could see her in contention as Blair.