AMC and OLTL Canceled!

[DRW50]

If she's that shrewd I'm not sure why she would launch OWN when she didn't have time to oversee it properly, and when it has a weak lineup. I don't think she's made the best decisions when it comes to her cable channels.

(I do agree with her that there's no reason to buy the soaps - but that doesn't make me understand why she can't have ANY scripted programming).

[Mr. Vixen]

I think Oprah is crippling herself by not doing any scripted programming. It doesn't have to be OLTL or AMC, or any soap for that matter. But she needs to do at least one or two shows. And syndicate old shows too.

Why would anyone want to watch a show about the Judd's farm, in a world of Jersey Shore?

(Now I personally FLOVE the Judd's, but I know I'm the exception not the rule)

[DRW50]

I don't think I could take a show with Naomi Judd, not after her time on Star Search. And the revelations in Ashley's book don't really help much.

[Mr. Vixen]

I love me some Ashley Judd.

But I just have to wonder,

Is there a celebrity who WASN'T molested? Seriously? I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything...But I feel like 4 of 5 celebrities say they were molested.

[wingwalker]

Yup, exactly. 10 years ago, might of been worth buying that fixer upper, but not now, it's unfortunatly too late. And that's what gets me the most. They could have been saved.

[SFK]

LOL I just cannot watch that channel! So distracting. We are talking MAJOR pay/cast/crew cuts and union contract mess here but I do wish amc and oltl could have been some sort of pioneers in the online soap revolution. Record player here but I thought that Griffin abc.com prequel was shot beautifully and with online viewing becoming what it is...

I think my Robin love is apparent but it's not a valid argument to say that Oprah is turning her back on the daytime audience that made her cuz well... people actually watch Oprah. She's not the one who was hurting. What was wrong she made it right and the soaps didn't do that for themselves.

[Mr. Vixen]

The only problem I have with online soaps, like others have said, is length. 6 minutes once a week isn't getting me invested in any characters or storylines. I need my stories to be longer than a commercial..

[Vizion]

Well someone's watching it because it has gotten pretty good ratings for the network thus far

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2011/04/20/own-oprah-winfrey-network-posts-second-consecutive-week-of-double-digit-growth-across-key-demos-in-primetime-versus-year-ago-discovery-health-numbers-4514/20110420own01/

I'm sure when Shania Twain, Celine Dion, Ryan & Tatum O'Neal's and Sarah Ferguson's shows premiere (again I don't get why these shows weren't ready when the network originally launched), the network will be in better shape, not to mention the return of Ling's "Our America" and the specials from Julia Roberts, Forrest Whitaker and Goldie Hawn

I don't think she's said never, just not right now and since she can't even get her unscripted programs together and placed properly in the lineup I think it's best she hold off on trying to tackle any scrited projects for the time being.

[Mr. Vixen]

Oprah's ratings re not where anyone would want them to be. And I think scripted programming would help.

[Vizion]

Why do you think that? Not having scripted programs is the least of her problems. Not having new or original programming at all is the major issue. For weeks people were watching the same episodes of "Ask Oprah all stars" and "What Would You Do: OWN edition." She lined up all of these shows with all of these 'big names' and yet they premiere once a month. April was The Judds, May will be Shania and so on. I don't see the sense in tackling scripted programming (which is a more time consuming process and requires a lot more money) when there are so many other issues that need to be addressed first. In all of the articles being written about OWN's issues, very few of them cite "lack of scripted programs" as a major factor.

[Mr. Vixen]

I think we're reading different articles.

And in a world dominated by reality television, Oprah is NOT bringing it. I know it's sad, but America is not interested in educational, or meaningful reality TV. And they're not interested in the mundane life of celebrities on a farm.

If Oprah wants reality TV to be her niche, she needs to come out with "25 Bitches, 1 House" or some sh!t.

[DRW50]

I respect Oprah for not having trashy shows, but most of the shows she does have are fronted by people who aren't exactly major draws these days, and in some cases are a huge mess (Ferguson, Tatum O'Neal). I also don't know if I've ever seen anything of Julia Roberts or Shania Twain that suggests they have any personality to front a TV show (Julia on talk shows/award shows can be tough to sit through).

It just sounds like she threw together dated names to try to fill up her channel in a hurry.

[ER Tosh]

At this point RS and Dorian seem to be the same person . Reading her tweets I almost expect Blair to walk into the room and be like "Dorian why are you feuding with Oprah on Myface/Twitter?"

[Mr. Vixen]

Oh I agree. I respect her for it too, but she's not going to get very far in reality TV the way she's doing it. That's why I stand by the idea that she needs scripted programming or original movies...Something.

Also, she shouldn't have launched the network until January 2012. Fresh AFTER her show ended. People would be going through Oprah withdrawl and actually be interested in tuning in to see her agin. Launching it this year, simulataneous with her daytime show, has allowed people to become bored. The network isn't big anymore. It's there. It will be there when her show ends...Just like it was a year earlier.

I think she should have waited.

[Vizion]

Julia Roberts doesn't have a show, it's a documentary on moms featuring Hilary Clinton and some other people. I don't believe she's in it, she just produced it and narrates it.

Honestly? It seems like a waste of time to debate this with those who don't have or have never seen the network. I'm not sure how this could be a real conversation of value. That's like me, having never seen an episode of AMC, trying to debate with people why it sucks because I read an article Nelson Branco wrote saying it sucks. That makes sense how? I don't get how you can give an opinion on what a network needs if you've never seen any show at all on the network. Well I guess everyone has an opinion, but it's like trying to explain all of the issues and changes that need to be made in a Ron Howard film that you've never seen before.