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I would love to hear Saedi explain why OLTL's ratings dropped further after they pandered to bigots and dropped any gay stories from OLTL. I would also love to know if someone at ABC went to the press and blamed gays for ratings failures and then smeared the actors involved. Is this another example of the hard work they did to save their soaps?

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I have no problems with what Sara Saedi said. I do believe that they did tried though I think that they could have done better with diversity and some of the stories were ridiculous. But in the end, the soaps are just dying as a genre and they cost too much for the networks to keep them on the air. Again, no scripted program lasts forever. These soaps did well to keep going as long as they did.

The recycling of soap headwriters has always been a pet peeve of mine so I liked what she said here:

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I'd love to know how hard they tried, and what their idea of trying was. If they spent years and years running around throwing things at the wall, then doesn't that mean they never really put any faith in a writer? And considering that Frons always had ideas he pushed, doesn't that mean the writers were treated as an afterthought?

I just wonder what is going on at ABC for Frons' sycophants to repeatedly speak out. I had assumed they would have just stayed quiet and backed in their victory.

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AMS that's great - you said it all. Now that they are so open and honest and on the record, let's hear more answers. It seems like they are only open and honest when they act as martyrs. I would love to hear more about why they see minorities as nothing more than a fad, and who these writers are they tried so hard to fight for while the headwriters refused to let them in. I'd also like to know if they see their audience as bigoted.

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I brought up the Latin thing several times in AMC threads and never got any feedback on it, I knew I wasn't imagining things. From Mayor Blanco to ambiguously latino Caleb, Asher, unseen Sonia and Miguel, to Griffin, Cara, Ricky and now Maya... But beige faces who never even speak damn Spanish is not enough. When you don't come close to the passion with which novellas are written and overacted, your so-called "efforts" are futile. Would you really drop your novella to watch mushy mouthed Griffin talk to his sister (in English!) at the nurse's station and stalk a curly-haired gringa who isn't even blonde?

"The one place we fell short in my opinion? Not adding new blood to the writing departments and instead recycling the same handful of storytellers--- but that wasn't for lack of trying. For years ABC Daytime had a talent development program that successfully trained a new generation of writers for the soaps. (Getting the head-writers to embrace those people instead of BLOWing them OFF was an entirely different issue.)"

Well there you have it. I'm cutting Sara some slack for following her "Look what we did!" paragraph with this one. Thing is, if you're the execs, you effing MAKE the head-writers embrace the new blood, get your hands dirty and see to it that that's happening, that the next generation is NOT getting blown off... offer them more opportunities of power to let them show what they've got if even for short stints. If you all are always playing interference reworking the HWs ideas anyway, you mean to tell me that you punked out in this aspect?

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ABC's SoapNet "still goin' strong!" with only ONE ABC soap in the lineup, another borrowed from CBS, another from NBC, and a load of extraneous crap as filler...

AhhhhhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oops, my bad, reruns of Ryan's Hope's third year on their 14th repeat cycle shown at the ass crack of dawn, you know, when all the tykes will be up watching Disney Jr. once it finally gets its thumb out of its ass.

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