2 hours ago, SoapDope said:

I remember Bill Bell said in an interview that after Deidre finished her role on Y&R, he sent her over to Days for the part of Marlena. He joked " She still has not thanked me to this day".......LOL

You thought he was joking when he said that?  I thought he was pissed, lol.

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

You thought he was joking when he said that?  I thought he was pissed, lol.

I have often made the joke that she owed her whole career to Don Craig. After they read, he told them to hire her, that she was definitely the one, that she was sarcastic & that he liked her. For some reason a number of Jarlena fans don't find it funny. 

19 hours ago, j swift said:

Ken Corday The Days of our Lives: The True Story of One Family's Dream and the Untold History of Days of our Lives (2010)

But, of course, times changed by the 1980s Roman Brady and Cal Winters specifically mentioned Vietnam in their backstory.

Jeezus, so one of Tom & Alice's kids was lost in the Korean War in the early 50's, and their great-grandchild David is in his twenties by the mid-70's. Just how old were Tom & Alice and when did Alice start popping out children? 

5 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Jeezus, so one of Tom & Alice's kids was lost in the Korean War in the early 50's, and their great-grandchild David is in his twenties by the mid-70's. Just how old were Tom & Alice and when did Alice start popping out children? 

Basically you just had to disbelieve Korean War! There was just no way. It was impossible. When the show began, Julie was a teen & she was their grandchild. 

59 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Jeezus, so one of Tom & Alice's kids was lost in the Korean War in the early 50's, and their great-grandchild David is in his twenties by the mid-70's. Just how old were Tom & Alice and when did Alice start popping out children? 

Ah ha, you've unlocked the McConaughey exception to SORASing,

As the younger ones age, the older gen stays the same 😉

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2 hours ago, Khan said:

You thought he was joking when he said that?  I thought he was pissed, lol.

It's been a while since I saw that interview, so he probably was.....LOL

 

I always got the impression BB was pissed and thought she was ungrateful.  I can't recall if I have ever heard Deidre talk about it one way or the other.

 

I'm doing a personal project, character analysis, 1991. I call it Roman, a Jerk or Not a Jerk? I'm on Day 15 which corresponds to 12-2-91 and so far Roman has not even been close to being a jerk, much less a male chauvinist pig or a misogynist. I can't imagine what in his 80s stuff is bad. Historically the cop & the doc were the most popular couple when Luke & Laura were off. Now when Dee & Wayne returned in '91 some people say Wayne got some really poor writing. I think you can't go by clips so I am watching full episodes. 

I didn't like John for a long time but I do like him now & I consider him the best parent & grandparent of all. And he did a great job with Carrie, Eric & Sami when they weren't really his responsibility. Of course, Carrie's parents are Roman & Anna. 

This started with me realizing it offends me for people to call the real historical Roman a misogynist. Real Roman, OG Roman, Roman played by Wayne Northrup was a hero, a good man. 

I know we are a product of our times & that there's stuff in soapdom's past that reads totally differently now than it did then. Re-watching The Doctors every day I am aware of how differently I see it now than I saw it as a teen. 

And I do think when you watch Roman in 1991 that you do have to be aware of what had happened to him in the 7 years of captivity & how absurd it was that anyone had ever believed Drake was playing Roman. Watching the scene where the whole family "meets" Real Roman in the Brady Fish Market is so amazing just how fast & completely first Shawn & then Caroline Know the truth when they see it & how hard they hug him!! 

@Donna L. BridgesI think Wayne's Roman's descent into being jerk started after he immediately went on assignment after getting back to find Bo.  Leaving Marlena and his kids alone again for months.  Then his issues with Carrie and Carrie's relationship with John made him seem at the very least unbendable.  I never got the sense he tried to reconnect with his family, wife, or children in the same way after being gone for 7 years-he just expected everyone to love him the exact same way as before.  He also had a tendency to disregard and not respect Marlena's career.   I think the writing was heavily skewed towards John and towards John/Marlena's affair.  I don't think Roman is a bad guy or had unrealistic reactions to an unbelievable situation, but I also don't think he comes off great.  Especially toward the end of his run where Marlena is doing everything to save the relationship.  He had every right to leave her, but not to leave his (troubled) children for several years with no contact.

My favourite classic era is definitely 1993-2001. I really wish Days would scoop up Kirsten Storms from GH. She’s the best Belle. 

22 minutes ago, EdibleFlowers said:

My favourite classic era is definitely 1993-2001. I really wish Days would scoop up Kirsten Storms from GH. She’s the best Belle. 

Seeing some of KS's recent issues at GH especially with wardrobe and styling I think she would be a liability to Days.  They don't seem to control wardrobe at all.  I agree she was the best Belle though.

EdibleFlowers said: 

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I gave a couple of examples of how Roman was trash in the 80s. The very first time they met, Roman made Marlena think he was going to strangle her to death. Then, as Marlena learned that Sam had been murdered in place of Marlena, Roman slapped her in the face. And the reason he called her Doc is because he couldn’t believe a woman was actually a doctor. 

If you can give me an approximate timeframe, I will look at the episodes. I'm just making myself see within context 

1 hour ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

EdibleFlowers said: 

If you can give me an approximate timeframe, I will look at the episodes. I'm just making myself see within context 

I’m sorry, I don’t have them. The clips were posted on twitter. 

2 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

EdibleFlowers said: 

If you can give me an approximate timeframe, I will look at the episodes. I'm just making myself see within context 

I think if you search you tube you can find Wayne/Deidre's first scenes.  I believe he scares her in her office to prove how unsafe and careless she is being.  Unless @EdibleFlowers is referring to the sleeping bag scenes were he moves into her house on the floor and I think those are available as well.  I think it would be December 1981 or early 1982.  Wayne debuted in December 81 but I can't recall if his first scenes were with Deidre.    I have never seen the slap scenes after Samantha's death.  Or if I did I don't recall.  I would assume it would be in the same month or week that Sam died though.

 

19 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think if you search you tube you can find Wayne/Deidre's first scenes.  I believe he scares her in her office to prove how unsafe and careless she is being.  Unless @EdibleFlowers is referring to the sleeping bag scenes were he moves into her house on the floor and I think those are available as well.  I think it would be December 1981 or early 1982.  Wayne debuted in December 81 but I can't recall if his first scenes were with Deidre.    I have never seen the slap scenes after Samantha's death.  Or if I did I don't recall.  I would assume it would be in the same month or week that Sam died though.

 

I’m referring to his initial scene where he shows up to her office as a patient then pretends to be the Strangler and brings out a scarf to choke her. It’s very disturbing and it’s so bizarre that they became a couple after any of that.