As The World Turns Discussion Thread

[Paul Raven]

It might have been better had Carol and a reformed Jay left Oakdale in 1980 for 'a whole new life', rather than making her a widow and marrying another unsuitable mate.

Some sources have Carol marrying again to her real life husband Norman Walter, a minister.

Did that happen or was it mentioned by her on one of her visits. She's listed as recurring for a time but how often was Carol seen?

Carol meeting and marrying a minister onscreen would have been a nice ending for the character but by that stage it wouldn't have interested TPTB.

[DRW50]

I think Soapclassics put up one of her final episodes on their website as it was a wedding. It was around Christmas 1981. I don't think they were the couple getting married. I think she may have mentioned being with him or planning to marry him. For some reason I remember this conversation being with Tom, which made me all the sadder they never thought of bringing her back to see Tom again in later years. 

I think it was Rita's choice to leave so I assume they would have had more plans for Carol if she hadn't as they could have just written her out with so many others in 1980. I wonder how I would feel about Carol/Steve if I saw more of them (this and the episode where they were going to raise Annie's baby, or whatever that plot was, are it). I do prefer seeing Steve styled more maturely and with a woman closer to his age, unlike how juvenile and overwrought they wrote his relationship with Betsy.

Rita brings a real sincerity to the part that makes her stand out from the sea of bland ingenues of that period. 

Jim Muneco put up an episode - it has been up before (I mainly remember because of the temp Lyla recast, and maybe the rarity of Scott's Craig with the wet look), so I won't tag, but I will @DramatistDreamer as it has some Craig/Sierra material.

It was clever to have Craig, here in semi-reformed mode, forced back into selfish behavior rather than getting what we would often get in later years - having characters behave selfishly as the writing bends over backwards to tell us how wonderful and perfect they are.

Trigger warning for anyone who like me has a limited patience for Lily weeping and wailing.

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Who is the actress at the end doing that cod Irish accent?

They also uploaded another episode I am pretty sure was up before but hasn't been in a while. There are some fun scenes in this involving Lyla and the speaker system...

 

Edited August 9, 2024 by DRW50

[DRW50]

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The quality isn't the best, but I couldn't find another version of this (may have missed it, sorry if so).

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[SoapDope]

The actress subbing for Lila is Lee Bryant. I think she subbed for her again later on. Bryant is best known for the Airplane moves as the hysterical woman getting slapped " I gotta get outta of here " SLAP !!!.......Another gag in the film was the line " Jim never asks for a second cup of coffee at home" She had played a wife in a Yuban coffee commercial that was parodied many times because of that line. Bryant also played William Shatners ex wife on T.J. Hooker. 

[DRW50]

She does, yes. I remember a 1986 or 1987 episode with an amusing moment where they cut to her standing on the stage at the Mona Lisa in full evening wear immediately after she has finished singing offcamera. I imagine the fans who were tired of hearing Lyla warbling were pleased for the break.

I'd forgotten until looking on IMDB that she also played the very tiresome Hannah Lafferty. I wonder what they would have done if Lyla had needed a temp recast around then.

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[SoapDope]

I forgot all about her as Hannah Lafferty. ATWT kept her employed off and on for years. 

LOL @ tired of hearing Lila. I know that got old quickly. I'm surprised they never had Kim singing there on a regular basis. I guess she was too busy with her TV show, worrying about her kids messy lives and making Bob deal with his feelings for Susan. 

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[DramatistDreamer]

Haha, that trigger warning about Lily @DRW50. Yes, it was a bit much, especially since it wouldn’t be that long before she would throw Dusty over for Holden. I do remember this episode. Scott Bryce always did pathos very well.

[SoapDope]

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[DRW50]

The other has a lot of Sierra/Craig and Montega material too, although I know that had also been up. It would be nice if all of 1985 is available eventually.

[AMCOLTLLover]

Which time should I watch first?

march 1990?

or July 2001?

I would love for the summer of 2001 with my favorite teenage crush Katie but I’m also interested in the German episodes from 1990 with Bob-Susan-Kim and characters like Iva etc. I’m also interested to see the other Lily.

i have to admit i just watched some mid 90‘s with my mom and that dumb mark krasnoff and Conner.. But regularly I’ve just became a big fan during 2001/02.. maybe that’s why I love the 00‘s than most fans around.

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[P.J.]

I remember that! It was a gruesome death for daytime at the time.

[SoapDope]

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[DRW50]

Thanks @SoapDope.

Nice to see how they did flashbacks at the time, and the bittersweet moment with Miranda and Carol. As is often the case with Carol material I feel like there's more of a sincerity and depth and less of the malaise of many other parts of the canvas.

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[Reverend Ruthledge]

That was a very well-done funeral. It would have been perfect if Lindsay Frost would have come back.