Members P.J. Posted April 21, 2018 Members Share Posted April 21, 2018 Yeah, that was another entire level of complication...Ariel was James' sister. They were both Greta's children. Ariel did figure out that Dusty was Gunnar's son, but I believe she did love Burke. Dusty didn't like her though. Burke collapsed at their ceremony, and there was some debate about if the marriage was legal. Since Dusty didn't want her as his stepmother, Burke didn't go through with a second ceremony, and made Karen Dusty's guardian. At some point it was decided the first ceremony was legal and Ariel tried, I think, to gain control of the fortune. But either way, Burke died soon there after. James grew up with a brother named Lars (who would've been Gunnar's brother) but he had died previously. I'm not sure he was ever on screen. But his widow blamed James for his death and hatched a revenge plot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted April 21, 2018 Members Share Posted April 21, 2018 Did he leave ATWT on his own or was he fired? I've read that it was this murder mystery story that introduced Lucinda to the canvas in spring 1984. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mitch Posted April 21, 2018 Members Share Posted April 21, 2018 Lucinda was already on canvas when Whit died. She blamed him for Martin's suicide (though we saw later that it was because of Lilly adoption, which Marland never connected to previous) and she took over all of Whit's media empire.. she WAS one of the suspects in his death (Lisa thought she was the murderer) but the original plan was to kill Lisa...or at least that is what Fulton claims, so she said she would come back.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted April 21, 2018 Members Share Posted April 21, 2018 It actually brought back Eileen Fulton as Lisa. Didn't Martin commit suicide because Lily's adoption was illegal and it was about to come out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted April 21, 2018 Members Share Posted April 21, 2018 That's what Marland wrote when he took over in late 1985... but before he took over.. it wasn't shown for sure what caused his suicide.. and Lucinda assumed it to be Whit's fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dax7000 Posted April 23, 2018 Members Share Posted April 23, 2018 I wish there was more 1984 stuff online that involved Eileen Fulton's Lisa and Whit. I really would have enjoyed seeing the Lisa/Lucinda feud at it's start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adrnyc Posted April 23, 2018 Members Share Posted April 23, 2018 Me too! I have hopes that, since so much has been recovered by collectors VHS tapes, perhaps more will continue to surface throughout the years! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted April 23, 2018 Members Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Although this interview was done last year, I've never seen it. Kind of nice that he keeps in touch with Tamara Tunie (Jessica), Brian Bloom (Dusty) and Finn Carter (Sierra), who he had great onscreen chemistry with. ATWT/OLTL Alum Scott Bryce Talks About His Time on Daytime Soap Operas, His Role on 'The Good Fight' and Much More! Edited April 23, 2018 by DramatistDreamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted April 23, 2018 Members Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) It was nice seeing Cassandra Creech-Denise ATWT on a soap again. She was on today's episode of Days playing a prisoner who has a vendetta on Gabi. Please register in order to view this content Edited April 23, 2018 by Soapsuds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted April 24, 2018 Members Share Posted April 24, 2018 I actually watched about half the episode, mostly to figure out where I knew her from. Took me a good ten minutes, but I think I was distracted by her hair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted April 24, 2018 Members Share Posted April 24, 2018 PJ, I am disappointed in you. Please register in order to view this content Are you sure you watched ATWT?? I recognized her right away. I thought ....where is Andy and his kid?....LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted April 24, 2018 Members Share Posted April 24, 2018 Well, I did know I knew her...now, if she'd said Big Ben, I coulda cut that in half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted April 24, 2018 Members Share Posted April 24, 2018 So excited to be presenting at this year’s Daytime Emmy Awards this Sunday with Elizabeth Hubbard! Liz and I have a lot of adventures planned. Stay tuned for some Q&A and FBook live! Fun!! Martha and Elizabeth will be at this years Daytime Emmys. It will be nice to see Liz again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoapDope Posted April 25, 2018 Members Share Posted April 25, 2018 Colleen Zenk in several 1983 ads for Ivey's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adrnyc Posted April 25, 2018 Members Share Posted April 25, 2018 ^Colleen is such a stunner!! (And still is) That photo of Denise - wow that takes me back! She was on ATWT when I started watching in 2000 but she didn't last very long. Was she a major player for awhile? I have vague memories of her and Ben. Heck, Ben himself is a character that I feel was on the show for a long time when I watched but never really did anything/had a major storyline? There don't seem to be a lot of episodes from the 90's available on YT but I'm hoping that, by the time I get there, more will have been uncovered. I'm hoping to learn more about Denise, Andy, Ben, Camille (?), and of course to learn about the Carly/Brad/Jack/Roseanna characters from their beginning. Right now, I'm still stuck in Laura Simmons Land. Currently she's just popping up around town freaking out around different people. The writers strike is obvious at this point. A lot is happening but it's all too quick - like the writers are just ticking off each box that includes a piece of the puzzle. There's no elegance to it. The seams are showing. But if it means they get through this storyline quickly, I'm all for it! In fact, the writers strike may have been the best thing to happen to this story. I've been trying to imagine the long slow burn that Marland probably created for it. Also, I don't think I mentioned this earlier but, during the laura/Kim confrontation scene, Kim's "It's not gonna work, Toots. You have miscalculated." is one of the great lines that I shall never forget. The hubby and I have often quoted it during the past few weeks since it has happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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