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ATWT: Jon and Martha reunited again

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I read that there are some reminscing scenes with Holden and Lily and Jon said it was hard cause it all goes back to Martha in the role. Stupid hacks in charge should have brought her back.

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What did Martha ever do to Goutman that he turned his back on her a couple years ago and still holds some kind of grudge that he wouldn't take Noelle up on her offer to step aside and let them bring Martha back for the final shows? He is such a big part of why ATWT got cancelled. I wonder if he has any guilt for putting over 150 people out of work?

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Wish this wasn't by Branco. I can't read his stuff. I'm glad they got to be interviewed together though.

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Yeah it was Nelson, the giveaway was him talking about Jon with his shirt off :rolleyes:

Jon is good looking but damn I didn't know he was that gorgeous when he was younger.

I thought it was cute Martha picked Jon in their audition

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I read that Noelle Beck agreed to step aside and let them bring Byrne back, but they chose not to. It would be wrong for them to just drop Beck but if she was cool with it, I dont see why they wouldnt do that

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Sorry---but what a load of pure tripe. Rose was a monumental failure--and I'm really surprised they had the nerve to defend that horrid character.

And I really have news for them---Jack and Carly certainly didn't need Holden and Lily to pave the way for them. MW and MP succeeded in spite of a load of craptastic writers. If Marland hadn't written Holden and Lily, I'm not sure we could say the same thing.

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Sorry---but what a load of pure tripe. Rose was a monumental failure--and I'm really surprised they had the nerve to defend that horrid character.

And I really have news for them---Jack and Carly certainly didn't need Holden and Lily to pave the way for them. MW and MP succeeded in spite of a load of craptastic writers. If Marland hadn't written Holden and Lily, I'm not sure we could say the same thing.

+1 and Word.

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Interesting note in there about Jake Weary, confirming some longtime suspicions:

JH: ... Initially, Kim Zimmer’s son, Jake Weary, was playing that character but when he got wind of the fact that they were going to make Luke gay, he quit. Everyone was a little worried where they were going with this character — and I admit, I had my own concerns. But when they cast Van, he just got it right from the start. I think it was one of our show’s better moves despite [everyone’s initial trepidation].

MB: The other thing is that Jake was very young. Jake was 14 or 15. At the time, Zimmer was like, “Look, it’s a great story, but my son’s only a young teen."

I thought Weary was decent in the role, and Van Hansis was very obviously a deliberate ringer for him albeit much more seasoned and popular. But I'm disappointed in the Zimmer family for that move. I've come to really enjoy Invader Zim for what she is - an old battleaxe - but she is just overbearing. And frankly, Chris McKenna on OLTL was Weary's age or slightly younger, and looked it, when OLTL had planned to make his Joey Buchanan gay in 1992. While Ryan Phillippe looked young, he was something like 17 and the character of Billy Douglas was a new player. One of the few frontiers daytime has never dared touch, and likely never will, is having an actual young teen actor play a gay or lesbian storyline. And that's too bad, given what we see in real life and in primetime - younger and younger adolescents declaring themselves and their sexual identities, to the point that we got little Mark Indelicato on Ugly Betty to represent those changing morays. I'm not saying we need to see some 14 year old making out, but daytime has always been about exploring the day-to-day realities of the time, and honestly the way these kids seem to acclimate themselves to whether they're gay, straight or bi these days, and the ages at which they do it, makes my hair turn white and I've only been out of high school about 9 or 10 years.

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