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Blacks In Soaps or How To Be On a Daytime Drama For Years and Never Have a Real Storyline

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Yeah I thought when I came back after all that drama, that you had gone away too--it's nice to see you here.

Thanks friend. I was only gone for about two weeks, went on vacation, and found it strangely difficult to jump back in.

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Thanks friend. I was only gone for about two weeks, went on vacation, and found it strangely difficult to jump back in.

You noticed that too huh? Once you take a real break, the momentum disappears.

For the record, I missed you too.

I don't buy diversity was forced on it and in fact I remember many liked Ross' Black GF (whose name I can't even remember...)

Who, ironically enough, was played by Aisha Tyler.

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I was reading an interview from last year with Patsy Pease and she had this to say:

We Love Soaps: That’s so sad to hear, especially since there was a time when soaps were very much about helping people, like in the 70s.

Patsy Pease: Yes, there was a time when there was a social consciousness they were involved in, to somehow promote tolerance and ideals that kids could look up to. They would try to have a better understanding of other people, to open up the minds of other people. I don’t see that as much as I would like. There was a time when you could move an idea through the medium of daytime and reach more people. Producers get scared now and go for the easier stuff, the sensational stuff, the sci-fi stuff, people’s heads appearing out of walls. It’s spectacular, it’s entertaining...but it’s not uplifting and inspiring. I haven’t seen it. Maybe it’s there and I’m not aware of it. If they are then I apologize to whichever show is doing it. But I keep in touch with a lot of people, and I haven’t heard anyone say, “They’re doing this multiracial story line and we’ve all been transported into thinking a different way.”

We Love Soaps: There is one show that I think that is doing that now, and that is the Otalia story line on GUIDING LIGHT. That story has been told in a very traditional way having been built up slowly for over a year. It’s just a beautiful story about love and acceptance between these two women.

Patsy Pease: Well, bravo then to GUIDING LIGHT. And I’m sure it’s no accident that that show is being done in New York. We have politically corrected ourselves to death in California. Jim Reynolds (Abe) had introduced the idea of Kimberly and Abe together, and we’ve never had the door shut so quickly on both of us.

http://www.welovesoaps.net/2009/07/we-love-soaps-how-did-you-know-that-kim.html

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Thanks for posting that. Patsy had a lot of interesting comments. I wish she'd talked more about her days on Search.

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Does anyone know what "Politically Correct" really means anymore? When you're for something, I hear people against saying you're being Politically Correct. When you're against something, I hear people for saying you're being Politically Correct. I ask, because California, from where I'm sitting here in Connecticut where gay marriage is legal, doesn't seem to be all that politically correct as this Patsy Pease is claiming it to be. I never used the term in an argument for or against anything because I never really understood what it meant.

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Does anyone know what "Politically Correct" really means anymore? When you're for something, I hear people against saying you're being Politically Correct. When you're against something, I hear people for saying you're being Politically Correct. I ask, because California, from where I'm sitting here in Connecticut where gay marriage is legal, doesn't seem to be all that politically correct as this Patsy Pease is claiming it to be. I never used the term in an argument for or against anything because I never really understood what it meant.

Yeah, I think she got her terminology jumbled. Her example of shutting down an interracial relationship is what I (and most people) would call politically incorrect. Y&R making the switch to faux furs in the '90s, politically correct.

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A soap opera or any TV show adding blacks or other minorities just to appease those that are complaining is another form of being "politically correct" some would say.

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Yeah, I think she got her terminology jumbled. Her example of shutting down an interracial relationship is what I (and most people) would call politically incorrect. Y&R making the switch to faux furs in the '90s, politically correct.

Politically correct is one of those terms that's lost all meaning. Basically it means that somebody doesn't like the result and feels it favors some undeserving "other." When somebody who is used to being catered to discovers their needs and wants are no longer at the top of the agenda they tend to be the ones who use the term "politically correct."

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Politically correct is one of those terms that's lost all meaning. Basically it means that somebody doesn't like the result and feels it favors some undeserving "other." When somebody who is used to being catered to discovers their needs and wants are no longer at the top of the agenda they tend to be the ones who use the term "politically correct."

I wouldn't say it's lost it's meaning because what you've stated still applies 100%, but it's just evolved as with many adjectives.

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So P.C. has pretty much lost its inoffensive/thoughtful/considerate/right and just connotations and become a pejorative for whiners who didn't get their way?

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So P.C. has pretty much lost its inoffensive/thoughtful/considerate/right and just connotations and become a pejorative for whiners who didn't get their way?

Just look at the people who use it and the circumstances under which they use it. It's almost always someone complaining about being forced to think about someone or something they consider unimportant.

It's an out of date term that basically should've fallen by the wayside with "Show me the money."

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Gotcha. The early '90s don't seem that long ago, but yeah, they really were in ways beyond calendar years.

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A pejorative for whiners who didn't get their way?

Ha Ha. Yeah, that basically how it's used today.

I've noticed that a lot of Conservatives use it against Liberals.

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Just look at the people who use it and the circumstances under which they use it. It's almost always someone complaining about being forced to think about someone or something they consider unimportant.

It's an out of date term that basically should've fallen by the wayside with "Show me the money."

Preach it, sista! I almost stood up!! :lol:

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