I felt like Tempest's story in the last season was a little too serious for her, although I liked the idea of it.

I liked it too.

But the writer's paternalistic writing had kept her "chaste" for so long all her relationships felt false.

That story would've been better served given to Sabrina or Malcolm.

I know what you mean about the kids. Olivia was great, in certain doses, but they also had her friends, and then they brought in Sandra and Elvin's twins...

Raven was amazing for the first year (not as effortless as Keisha) but still really good but then the writers started doing Kids Say The Darndest Things with Bill & Raven instead of writing Cliff & Olivia.

The twins were just a mess.

This was always my favourite opening and theme variation for The Cosby Show:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ZHC-YsXYTsg

I always found it funny how the show started to revolve around Denise and Olivia when Lisa Bonet came back from A Different World, and then Lisa and Bill had another falling out and that was it for the Denise character...

That's my favorite TCS opening of all of them

Cliff and Claire liked Olivia more than their own damn grandchildren.

Yet she was never allowed to call them Grandpa & Grandma.

How was that story with Vanessa and her fiancee' resolved? They broke up right?

Cliff and Claire liked Olivia more than their own damn grandchildren.

LOL! The twins annoyed the hell out of me.

We should start a thread for The Cosby Show LOL

I couldn't stand Cliff's parents at all, and I couldn't stand Claire all that much either.

How was that story with Vanessa and her fiancee' resolved? They broke up right?

They never officially broke up but said they were just friends when they showed up together for Theo's graduation.

LOL! The twins annoyed the hell out of me.

Now THAT we can agree about.

We should start a thread for The Cosby Show LOL

I couldn't stand Cliff's parents at all, and I couldn't stand Claire all that much either.

I will right now.

Hated seson 6 Lena but she was ok in season 5. I did like those episodes where she was making chili from her dorm room, and it set off a fire and when her friends from Baltimore came to visit.

Her relationship with Dorian was SO dull.

that wasnt chili, it was gumbo! lol

I liked Dorian

that wasnt chili, it was gumbo! lol

Oops lol My memory is a little foggy, I havent seen that episodes since they did the reruns on Oxygen.

what did you guys think of Kinu? I couldnt stand her. She really did nothing wrong except get in the way. I loved how Whitley would mispronounce her name

I loved Kinu, everything about that triangle was hilarious.

I couldn't stand her either. She always (to me, anyway) seemed a little too clingy with Dwayne. Whitley always cracked me up when she screwed up Kinu's name.

"Konichiwa!"

Oh man, YES on those twins being so damn annoying, and speaking of Elvin's rat tail Carl, little Nelson had one too! Winnie, I don't know where her parents were from, but she had a slight accent and hit her lines so weirdly, not my favorite kids. Olivia was great in the beginning, it's funny to have watched her evolution from the final eps to "Hangin' With Mr. Cooper" to <<GASP>> "That's So Raven" where she has just THEE most OTT Jim Carey acting style, ugh, I can't take it. Like, you can't get a break, every line is mugged and beat to death with "funny" inflection. Oh well, *ca-ching* for you sweet Raven with your superfluous accent in Symoné.

I'm the same age as Keisha and I remember what a huge deal her sleepover episode was, everyone was doing "Uno Dos Si-ay-so" (sp??) at school for years after that. What I DIDN'T know until a few yearrs ago is that that was Alicia Keyes playing the little girl who we all thought was another little boy, with the short afro. Maria.

The first season was the Phoebe Snow version (which was OK, but I'm glad they changed it).

I liked Freddie until she became too one-note, which I thought she was around seasons 4 and 5. Before then she had a certain sweetness which she lost as time went on. They'd have her very shrilly champion a cause and then have various people talk about how shrill she was, which just made it even worse. They started treating her as a joke. I liked when they had her change because I didn't think there was anywhere else the character could go. I think they did have her go back to her natural hair a few times, although they could have done it more often.

I liked the last season because I thought they were trying something different, and while there was a more confrontational edge to the humor, I thought that was almost necessary, in a way, with the huge racial confrontations going on in America around this time. I didn't care for some of the "Listen to me, woman," turn the Whitley/Dwayne relationship took, but overall I thought they took the older characters in more interesting story directions. I didn't care for most of the new people but some of them had potential. I wish they'd let Jada Pinkett have a little more warmth. Jada Pinkett in all her work I've seen has tried to have a tough edge but she's better suited to some sweetness. Lauryn Hill was more believable in that tough role...but then she went on to lose her mind.

ADW is my favorite show ever. I was very young when TCS and ADW were airing but I remember that my mother made sure that I watched those shows. I always related more to ADW of the two though. I loved Freddie the most out of all of the characters. Freddie is like me. I'm biracial and quixotic. I don't really fit neatly into either world. I have a sister who is very dark-skinned who looks like Layla on OLTL and a few years ago she mentioned how the Mammy episode made her cry because she was teased when she was younger by white kids and called Mammy. She always wished she was me. I always wished I was her.

I think Season 1 was the worst season. I didn't like Denise and Dwayne. I never saw their chemistry between them. I liked Whitley the most but it was mostly love to hate and somewhere along Denise and Dwayne getting stuck in her car on the way back from his visit to see Denise and her dejection at her father's wedding to Monica, I found myself intrigued by their chemistry. The three-year courtship between them was so very well done. I loved that a dark-skinned, geeky, math nerd was the heartthrob of the show. I loved how the women were so smart. My chief complaint was that they wrote Whitley as a virgin and then had her first experience off-screen. I don't know if I understood that.

I think Season 6 was trying to reestablish itself with a new generation and I actually found that interesting. Dwayne and Whitley as supporting characters struggling to make ends meet worked for me. I loved Dwayne and Whitley and I found them as interesting as newlyweds as I did when they were dating. I didn't like Lena very much but I loved Charmaine and Gina. I also liked Terel. It was Dorian that was too bland. Terel reminded me of Ron and I floved Ron and his relationship with Dwayne. Ron and Freddie made a very good match. I think they helped to make Season 6 as she was torn between her attraction to Ron and Shazza.