DeeeDee, you're taking bits of my post out of context. It should be obvious that I wasn't blaming Bryton for the fact that his character gets nothing to play with but that I was blaming MAB, SHx2 et al.

Does Eden R.'s voice sound like she' s making it to be a lower octave? She's too much on the cute side to be believably on the sexual side.

So Victoria would rather protect Nick than have custody with her child?

Edited April 20, 201015 yr by lovely_m

DeeeDee, you're taking bits of my post out of context.

How so?

It should be obvious that I wasn't blaming Bryton for the fact that his character gets nothing to play with but that I was blaming MAB, SHx2 et al.

So why not just say THAT?

So why not just say THAT?

I did. Sigh.

I did. Sigh.

No. You didn't.

You said "there's nothing there" NOT "there's nothing to do".

Both points regarding Devon are valid, and that's because there is a big gap between what Bryton McClure is capable of as an actor, and what makes Devon tick. Bryton is so comfortable and laid-back on screen, it is hard to believe he is even acting. So viewers understimate him.

But the other problem is Devon. There is nothing to this character. Nothing. The writers give him nothing. I don't know who this guy is,

ITA!

Bryton is a very good young actor with nothing to act. I would love to see them actually do something with him.

I think the situation with Devon is a perfect example of how people underestimate Victoria Rowell's influence with the black characters on the show. She fought long and hard for the character, and when she left, they intentionally neglected him for years and he's withered away.

I don't even know if Bryton knows how dedicated Rowell was to his character or if he's even appreciative of her efforts. She must have felt insulted when he didn't even mention her in his Emmy speech.

they intentionally neglected him for years and he's withered away.

Yep

And 20 year vets like Tonya & Kristoff have to BEG for story!

It's ridiculous.

There is PLENTY to the character. The problem is hypocritical viewers who fall all over themselves to get completely involved in his overrated white peers who have JUST as little to do but TONS more story to do it in.

Y&R & it's viewing audience doesn't do minorities except for Scottie Pippen.

But can you blame the audience entirely? Isn't it a natural response not to invest in minority characters when you know that, realistically, they will only be on the show for a few years (at best) before they are written off or completely marginalized.

But can you blame the audience entirely?

Yep.

Isn't it a natural response not to invest in minority characters when you know that, realistically, they will only be on the show for a few years (at best) before they are written off or completely marginalized.

No.

Then what do you recommend as a solution? Is there one?

But can you blame the audience entirely? Isn't it a natural response not to invest in minority characters when you know that, realistically, they will only be on the show for a few years (at best) before they are written off or completely marginalized.

Of course they going to have a short stunt if the writers aren't willing to write for them. If they are willing to write for them like the nonblack girl CKLily & the white counterparts for them to have stupid storylines & give them longer stunts like Daisy chick & Ryder why not for the new black characters. Instead of the writers thinking short term they need to be thinking long term.

Edited April 20, 201015 yr by MoTheGreat

Of course they going to have a short stunt if the writers aren't willing to write for them. If they are willing to write for them like the nonblack girl CKLily & the white counterparts for them to have stupid storylines & give them longer stunts like Dasit chick & Ryder why not for the new black characters. Instead of the writers thinknig shortterm they need to be thinking long term.

+1.

Of course they going to have a short stunt if the writers aren't willing to write for them. If they are willing to write for them like the nonblack girl CKLily & the white counterparts for them to have stupid storylines & give them longer stunts like Daisy chick & Ryder why not for the new black characters. Instead of the writers thinking short term they need to be thinking long term.

But how does this implicate the audience? I guess you could argue that the writer's write to satisfy the viewers, but in the case of all of the soaps (judging, at least from the audience that uses this and other forums), that isn't the case.

But how does this implicate the audience?

Because the audience MAGICALLY gets totally involved in ANY White characters or pairings. Even ones that rarely if ever interact.

White characters share one or two scenes & immediately there are vids & websites ALL. ABOUT. THEM.