Anyone watch these shows? I absolutely love them. Ive watched NJ and Atlanta and now they are airing NY. Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs. Anyone else watching the current season of NY. Lots of drama. My favorites are Bethany and Kelly. I also like Jill although she bugs me. Alex does nothing for me and I cant stand Ramona and LuAnn

Ps I miss the SON Dream Team do Myself/Car/DaytimeFan! Lol.

Better times:

I read the new girls are going at it with Teresa and Melissa and Dina cant stand Melissa. Any change would be welcome after 3 years of repetitive garbage.

I heard that. I figured Dina would come for Melissa (and Kathy had she remained on) because they're extremely close to Jacqueline and Caroline--Dina's two least favorite people. I've never cared for Dina and if she pisses me off this upcoming season, I'm gonna pray constantly that they bring my psycho Danielle Staub back to run her ass off again.

Danielle should've been the one invited back, IMO. That woman carried NJ the first two seasons on her back, and made it the success it is.

We're usually on the same page re the wives NBA....I love Dina though and I'm so excited by her return. I def will have to watch every single episode.

I can't believe I've fallen so behind on BH this season. I think the reality of Brandi and Yolanda turning on Lisa is the cause....its subconsciously making me find reasons not to catch up.

I have absolutely zero interest in NJ sadly.

I could always blame it on production

Production, regardless of whether we ever agree, controls a lot of what happens and what the dynamics are. But my issue with Brandi's statements doesn't actually apply to what's said on the show, she's edited for coherence. Rather, my issue with her statements are the ones she makes on Twitter, in print and on talk shows. She is incredibly inconsistent and, under the slightest pressure, crumbles and retracts her slanderous comments.

Ps I miss the SON Dream Team do Myself/Car/DaytimeFan! Lol.

Better times:

(pictured L to R: DaytimeFan, Cat, JackPeyton)

I know I can speak for Cat when I say we're all still friends JackPeyton!

I mean, technically you two are against me in this argument so I'm the Lisa. Terrible all around. Lol.

And yes we are still the dream team. The real one!

We're usually on the same page re the wives NBA....I love Dina though and I'm so excited by her return. I def will have to watch every single episode.

I can't believe I've fallen so behind on BH this season. I think the reality of Brandi and Yolanda turning on Lisa is the cause....its subconsciously making me find reasons not to catch up.

Sorry buddy. Lol. I loathe Dina and have since day one. I'm gonna watch but I'm gonna curse her each episode and pray for a Danielle return.

And catch up on RHOBH! You have too!

It's interesting RHONY was thought of as a reboot with three replacements but nobody has said that for RHOC, likely because the vile and hateful wives stayed. And nobody cared about Horse and JesusJuggs.

Isn't it also because Lydia quit instead of being fired?

There's still three gone tho.

And I'm not sure if I believe she quit out of not wanting to do it, fear of being fired, or at all. I believe all new wives sign two season deals with the second year an option by bravo but I'm not sure. Their contracts for housewives are pretty secret and tight. Even ex wives don't really discuss them.

It's interesting RHONY was thought of as a reboot with three replacements but nobody has said that for RHOC, likely because the vile and hateful wives stayed. And nobody cared about Horse and JesusJuggs.

I think RHOC has always had cast changes so it's never been stagnant like New Jersey has gotten nor has it been as toxic as NY got in season 4.

I think season 8 was starting to fall into Jersey territory (i.e. being stagnant with Tamra/Vicki/Gretchen fighting over Gretchen cheating since season 4 again with Alexis thrown into the mix since she was friends with Gretchen). With Gretchen, Alexis, and Lydia gone.. and with two or three new housewives coming on.. the show will either be recharged in season 9 or be directionless like BH was this season.

I loved Gretchen and while I don't care as much about OC without her I'm interested to see it. I just think that either Vicki or Tamra have got to go. Not both, but one or the other.

Heather is one of the best additions ever.

O.C. is only going to be good because Rest Home Granny Gunvulson, Trailer Park Tammy, and Pleather Whoville will eventually turn on each other. Watch....

We've already seen Tamra and Vicki turn and go back tho. It's played out. And Vicki isn't good enough to sell stuff and Tamra needs someone stronger to play off.

I didn't mind Gretchen in Season 4 at all, but once she hooked up with Slade she lost all purpose for me. I think she should have been cut loose after season 6.I t

If I had to choose between Vicki and Tamra, I would say to cut Tamra just because Vicki is so funny to watch when she gets worked up. Every season has at least one funny meltdown moment for me. Family Van, Embarrassing Brianna on a date, surprising Michael at college, trying to reach someone in customer service, having a football hit her in the head, falling on her way up to accept an award, etc.