Nene stirring the pot = her encouraging an environment where it's okay to beat people up? Ok maybe in your world but not to most people.

Nene attacking Kenya when she arrived is irrelevant. Nene has attacked each and every one of these girls for being late, it is NOT unique to Kenya nor out of character for Nene. Being late is something nene has been riding these bitches about for years and it WAS hypocritical of Kenya to be so late considering her huge diatribe against tardiness two weeks ago

Showing your guests that it is acceptable to berate each other.

Asking questions to make people fight.

Attacking someone. Getting in their face.

Yes. That creates an environment in wich it is encouraged to do the same.

This not being unique to Kenya nor out or character for nene is kind of the point. This is just the first time it's gotten this out of hand and people have realized it.

Kenya's being Kate is the only thing irrelevant here. But you stay trying to shift blame to Kenya for this.

I believe Nene holds some blame for being a [!@#$%^&*] stirrer but Kenya is not blameless either.

I mean, really. Last week Kenya brought up Natalie and Chris' "marriage" out of nowhere SIMPLY TO STIR THE POT. But because it didn't get violent, we all just eat it up as "delicious shade". This week, Nene stirs the pot and it escalates, all leading back to KENYA, and Nene is the antichrist.

Nene is not blameless but if Miss Kenya hadn't come for Natalie's marriage last week JUST to stir the pot, none of this would have happened in the first place. Y'all can blame nene for stirring the pot but the stem of this argument is KENYA stirring the pot last week.

Also Eric you're right, Apollo hates Phaedra and it's obvious

I see your point but the same can be said that if Cynthia wasn't so thirsty to make Todd look bad to get Natalie a spot this wouldn't have happened. Luckily Cynthia's weak ass and Papa Smurf are going to get their dragging in a couple of weeks.

Showing your guests that it is acceptable to berate each other.

Asking questions to make people fight.

Attacking someone. Getting in their face.

Yes. That creates an environment in wich it is encouraged to do the same.

This not being unique to Kenya nor out or character for nene is kind of the point. This is just the first time it's gotten this out of hand and people have realized it.

Kenya's being Kate is the only thing irrelevant here. But you stay trying to shift blame to Kenya for this.

I'm not shifting the blame to Kenya, I'm saying it isn't that black and white. Nene [!@#$%^&*] stirred tonight and came for EVERYONE there, for sure. But if Kenya hadn't gotten involved in someone else's marriage just to stir the pot, this whole thing wouldn't have ever happened. They are both in the wrong here but for some reason Kenya gets painted as some angel simply because she was more slick.

I'm disgusted at NeNe's behind for chasing after Kenya and holding nobody accountable. She was acting an ass and like she was high off Molly the entire night and when sh-t gets out of control because Crack Head and NotGoingtoEverHoldAPeach got mad that they are lying about being married she blames it squarely all on Kenya. NeNe has nothing to do with how they and that animal Apollo acted but she definitely shares some responsibility in things getting out pf hand.

I want to reiterate that Nene is not responsible for grown people fighting but she disgusted me by chasing down Kenya and then telling her she wasn't going anywhere? What in the world? And NeNe's was 3 hours late to her own Ladies of Atlanta event last season so she needs to take a chill pill. Kenya being absent wasn't keeping them from enjoying the night. This is different than being late for a trip where there is an itinerary in my opinion.

This episode also really showcased how much Apollo hates Phaedra.

Yes.

I believe Nene holds some blame for being a [!@#$%^&*] stirrer but Kenya is not blameless either.

I mean, really. Last week Kenya brought up Natalie and Chris' "marriage" out of nowhere SIMPLY TO STIR THE POT. But because it didn't get violent, we all just eat it up as "delicious shade". This week, Nene stirs the pot and it escalates, all leading back to KENYA, and Nene is the antichrist.

Nene is not blameless but if Miss Kenya hadn't come for Natalie's marriage last week JUST to stir the pot, none of this would have happened in the first place.

Kenya is pretty blameless. She defended herself.

Yes. Quite frankly I don't see how it's so I fathomable that being the cause of a fight is the difference between stirring the pot for some reality tv drama being ok but instigating a fight that turns into a brawl is not.

Even if nene wasn't to blame, and she is, she'd def still be taking heat for attacking Kenya after. It came off as desperation to shift blame and it seems like many saw that.

Poor innocent Natalie. And her "husband". Your right. I feel so bad for them.

I see your point but the same can be said that if Cynthia wasn't so thirsty to make Todd look bad to get Natalie a spot this wouldn't have happened. Luckily Cynthia's weak ass and Papa Smurf are going to get their dragging in a couple of weeks.

Cynthia was shady too, but Kenya's [!@#$%^&*] stirring re: their marriage was not Cynthia's doing. Kenya jumped in because she loves to watch everyone fight while she sips tea and says things in her talking heads that she won't say in person. This week Nene did try to clown them all, and it backfired. That doesn't make Kenya any less to blame.

I'm not shifting the blame to Kenya, I'm saying it isn't that black and white. Nene [!@#$%^&*] stirred tonight and came for EVERYONE there, for sure. But if Kenya hadn't gotten involved in someone else's marriage just to stir the pot, this whole thing wouldn't have ever happened. They are both in the wrong here but for some reason Kenya gets painted as some angel simply because she was more slick.

I don't see anyone leveling nene the devil and Kenya an angel but you.

And you are trying to blame her. Most if your posts you've directly blamed her. Including this one.

I guess kandi is to blame for papa stuff coming at her too.

Yes.

Kenya is pretty blameless. She defended herself.

Yes. Quite frankly I don't see how it's so I fathomable that being the cause of a fight is the difference between stirring the pot for some reality tv drama being ok but instigating a fight that turns into a brawl is not.

Even if nene wasn't to blame, and she is, she'd def still be taking heat for attacking Kenya after. It came off as desperation to shift blame and it seems like many saw that.

Poor innocent Natalie. And her "husband". Your right. I feel so bad for them.

Kenya absolutely isn't blameless and neither is Nene. I don't think you should feel for Natlie or or husband. But last week Kenya did to Natalie exactly what you're accusing Nene of doing to Kenya, yet because nobody got punched, Kenya is blameless. If Kenya had stayed out of their marriage" none of this would have happened.

Cynthia was shady too, but Kenya's [!@#$%^&*] stirring re: their marriage was not Cynthia's doing. Kenya jumped in because she loves to watch everyone fight while she sips tea and says things in her talking heads that she won't say in person. This week Nene did try to clown them all, and it backfired. That doesn't make Kenya any less to blame.

I get your point. This episode had my blood boiling.

I get your point. This episode had my blood boiling.

Mine too, and I do not think Nene should have followed Kenya or gotten in her face. If Nene had a problem with Kenya standing it should have been addressed later. In the heat of all that physical fighting Nene didn't need to add that fuel to the fire.

However, acting like Kenya played no role in how things played out is ludicrous. It all comes back to her running her mouth about someone else's marriage, simply to stir the pot. Her and Nene are very much alike in that manner, and while Nene may have gotten away with it in the past, Kenya is sliding off the hook undeservedly now because it's become the trend to label Nene as this big bad wolf. Kenya is very strategic and she knew exactly what she was doing. Just like Nene.

Y'all see Cynthia on WWHL? She admitted she was wrong to tell the girls what Natalie said about Kandis man and she basically agreed that nene was the instigator and caused it.

I love WWHL. ESP on a night after this.

Why is Kenya the only one blogging on bravo? She's smart to do it. It will keep her fans and get her more.

Well I hope NeNe decides to post a blog this week. I would really love to know what was going through her mind that night.

Cynthia.... I liked her in the past but she like NeNe are absolutely showing their ass! She sending her sister to confront her husband, sending her husband to confront Kandi, letting Nene question her parenting skills. Get a spine woman!

I doubt she will. She couldn't even tweet during the show lol.

Cynthia really should be a strong person. But she's weak. She has no spine. It's really sad to see her let Peter humiliate her.

Also lol at Chuck punk ass hiding behind his wife in the corner.

Yes.

It was a insane episode. It was interesting to see production though.

I'm so sad we have to wait two weeks! Ugh.

WTF was Nene on? Pacing back and forth, huffing and puffing about business that doesn't concern her, slamming doors and causing even more of a scene when clearly there was no need for it. Heffa was acting like a moose on bath salts. She was messy and it ain't cute, much like her lingerie. Granted Kenya was late, oh well they all are moving on.

Apollo seriously needs to take a chill pill. There was no need for him to go banging his chest to Brandon like some Neanderthal, although I will admit to finding scrappy, shirtless Apollo very "foine!" But it ends there. Glad Phaedra took him to task, reminding him he has 2 sons and shouldn't be acting this way. Loved Kandi calling Peter out about lying about getting a lap dance. All that was needed was a simple "I go to the strip club." He didn't need to go make a story about how awesome he is that he doesn't get lap dances, since clearly that ain't the case.

Natalie can be gone along with Mynique and their poor excuses for husbands. It was obvious Cynthia and Nene brought them on to start drama with Phaedra and Kandi but clearly it backfired. What was it you were saying at the reunion Nene?

Exactly!